Thaiphoon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Woz said: There's been growth? Unless he means of the cancerous kind, where? Ouch! Did you mean to say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 2:30 PM, TheRealMcCoy said: On 9/20/2020 at 2:28 PM, lavar703 said: Scherffs done. Looks terrible. Gotta hope its MCL... that's what I'm praying on for our offensive guard who went down today too holding his knee. Glad I was right and that's all it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Glad I was right and that's all it is. Yeah, but that injury just cements Scherff's departure via FA in my mind. He just can't stay healthy, and I don't see them paying him top guard money to not play all 16 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: Yeah, but that injury just cements Scherff's departure via FA in my mind. He just can't stay healthy, and I don't see them paying him top guard money to not play all 16 games. I guess that's fair, but kinda sucks to let one of your home grown guys walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4209 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Scherff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 10:44 PM, TheRealMcCoy said: I guess that's fair, but kinda sucks to let one of your home grown guys walk. It's really the only thing we've done the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 11:14 AM, Thaiphoon said: On 9/22/2020 at 12:38 AM, Woz said: There's been growth? Unless he means of the cancerous kind, where? Ouch! Did you mean to say this? In all honesty, my original version was going to be "There's been growth? Where?" My subconscious/tongue-in-cheek side added in the cancerous part, totally forgetting the whole Trent debacle. Looking back at it, it's even more true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 7:02 PM, 4209 said: Scherff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For all the people who say "Hawkins doesn't have any field sense, he should just step up or move around in the pocket," I want to point them to this play and ask them "where should he have gone?" From left to right Marcus Baugh is on the edge, but a step behind the line, after having gone in motion and then come back to the left side. He's lined up against Haason Riddick, who engages him at first and then drops off into shallow coverage. Let's stop for a moment and pause on the fact that a second year UDFA is blocking Riddick. Anyway ... I don't think Baugh noticed but Byron Murphy Jr. was following Baugh in man coverage when he went in motion. When Baugh stays into block and Haason drops back, Baugh turns inside to help with Zach Allen (more on that in a bit) and Murphy sprints up field. If not for an inadvertent block by Martin (more on that in a bit as well), Murphy would have catapulted in Haskins' back. Jeremy Sprinkle is lined up tight on the left side acting like he is going to stay into block, but instead squirts out to run a TE drag route. Ostensibly a safety valve route, it's mostly covered De'Vondre Campbell who stayed in his assignment on the left side of the shallow coverage area. There's little to no chance, even if Haskins wasn't getting mauled, that he could have gotten that safely to Sprinkle. Next up is Geron Christian. This is almost comical. Christian gets his hands on ... Jeremy Sprinkle's back and is caught up in the wash. It isn't until Zach Allen is three yards downfield already (and engaged with Baugh) that Christian actually gets his hands on a Cardinals player. This is why Murphy has a free run into Haskins until ... Wes Martin? What the hell is this? Inside of a second and a half, he gets bullrushed back six yards by Rashard Lawrence (I think). In the space of time from the snap, I'm able to say "one one thousand two" before he's almost on top of Haskins. Haskins does a seven yard drop, planting his feet for the first time at the 22. At the same time, Martin and Lawrence are at the 20. Antonio Gibson might have had a chance to help out, but he has to pick up Jordan Hicks on a delayed blitz, which gets to Haskins with little trouble since Scherff has "not-blocked" the right side (more on that in a moment). Oh, remember Byron Murphy? The only reason he doesn't get to Haskins is because Lawrence rag dolls Martin into Murphy. Yes, the Cardinals defender did more to prevent the killing blow to Haskins' back than any of Washington's blockers did. Chase Roullier ... stands in the middle of the field. Literally, after the ball is snapped, he doesn't touch an Arizona Cardinal player until the play is over. Misses the delayed blitz by Hicks, missed the ball is out, misses even getting a hand on Chandler Jones before he is down. All of us had as much impact on that play as Roullier did. Scherff (as @4209 vents about) gets beat almost from the jump by Jordan Phillips. Whereas Martin gets beat with pure strength, all it takes is one single swim move by Phillips to get past Scherff. Honestly, I'm not sure Scherff gets his left arm on Phillips until he's already past him. Anyways, within a second, Phillips is on the 15 yard line and racing to Haskins with Scherff stumbling after him. A second later, Phillips gets his meaty paw on the ball. Moses lines up against Chandler Jones. He does alright for two seconds, walking Jones back but then Jones rips inside because Moses is off balance. While he doesn't get the sack, he is in perfect position to grab the ball out of the air because of the inside move (and Scherff flailling after Phillips). Roullier watches the whole thing unfold more or less stock still. Literally, there is less than a second from the snap to the fake hand off to Haskins planting his feet for the first time. Both receivers have barely run five yards up field. At the same time, the offensive line has been forced back four of the seven yards in Haskins' drop. Murphy and Hicks have just crossed the line of scrimmage. Even so, three Cardinals (Lawrence, Phillips, and Jones) are four yards behind the line of scrimmage. Yes, Moses is probably doing the correct thing and walking Jones around behind the pocket, but there is no pocket since the two interior rushers are just as far as up field as Jones is on the edge. A second later, six separate Cardinals players are within two yards of Haskins and the ball has been knocked out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 12:51 PM, Woz said: In all honesty, my original version was going to be "There's been growth? Where?" My subconscious/tongue-in-cheek side added in the cancerous part, totally forgetting the whole Trent debacle. Looking back at it, it's even more true. Plus Rivera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: Plus Rivera Ooo, yeah ... forgot about that too ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 It’s going to come down to cost with Scherff IMO. As always, he doesn’t deserve to be paid the largest contract for a guard in NFL history. Not only his play not always been elite - especially in pas pro - but he just hasn’t been able to stay healthy the last 3 years. You can’t pay a guard $15 plus million a year who can’t stay healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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