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4 minutes ago, animaltested said:

Looking into the issues last year, alot of it did fall on Russ's shoulders. Scotty wasn't that incompetent. There where plenty of play designs to exploit the 2 deep, zones teams were running against Seattle. Russ just wasnt very interested in throwing to the flats or throwing timing routes in the middle of field. 

The Shanahan system should make it easier on Russ. It’s literally was responsible for Rodgers MVP season last year. But you guys need the personnel to run the ball effectively. Can it be done? 🤷‍♂️

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36 minutes ago, Xenos said:

Why the Bears and Raiders?

The Raiders have an OL, which seems to be a big complaint of Wilson’s with the Seahawks right now.

Vegas would be a great fit for his wife as well, which may or may not be of importance here...

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3 minutes ago, Xenos said:

The Shanahan system should make it easier on Russ. It’s literally was responsible for Rodgers MVP season last year. But you guys need the personnel to run the ball effectively. Can it be done? 🤷‍♂️

Biggest question of the offseason. Brown-Lewis-Shell and two TE Parkinson and Dissly is a decent start. Penny (if 100%) could be really good if Seattle incorporates the Rams stretch-zone stuff. Big holes at LG and C though. RB situation is very much in flux. Adding Everette or Jonnu Smith would be huge.

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3 minutes ago, Nightmare said:

The Raiders have an OL, which seems to be a big complaint of Wilson’s with the Seahawks right now.

Vegas would be a great fit for his wife as well, which may or may not be of importance here...

He also fits Gruden's scheme very well. He'd have a good running game, elite TE, a major burner at WR with Ruggs and great possession guy with Renfrow. The O would no doubt be lethal. The D on the other hand.... oooooooof.

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I would be absolutely floored if SEA traded Wilson this offseason.

Simple reason - NYJ owns Seattle's first round pick for 2022.  No way you make this a rebuild, and there's no scenario outside of a DAL Dak-sign-and-trade (which Dak has to sign the tag first to allow, which takes away all of his leverage to get an extension).  

If Seattle can't mend fences by next offseason, sure, start looking around.  But I don't see Seattle even sniffing a trade until next offseason.

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6 hours ago, Forge said:

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Co worker is big Seattle fan.  Has pretty good intelligence on things pretty often.

He says the clash in philosophy between 

Carroll = defense and running game 

Vs

Wilson = wanting to open the offense up

2020, first 5 ish games, Wilson was on fire, but defense was hemorrhaging yards and points.  Carroll insisted on more ball control to keep the defense off the field.

5-0 start to 7-4 finish and early playoff exit.  Trading 2 firsts for a safety not helping the cause either.

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5 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Co worker is big Seattle fan.  Has pretty good intelligence on things pretty often.

He says the clash in philosophy between 

Carroll = defense and running game 

Vs

Wilson = wanting to open the offense up

2020, first 5 ish games, Wilson was on fire, but defense was hemorrhaging yards and points.  Carroll insisted on more ball control to keep the defense off the field.

5-0 start to 7-4 finish and early playoff exit.  Trading 2 firsts for a safety not helping the cause either.

Seems very compatible with the story today.

One huge qualifier, though - given Seattle's traded away their 2022 1st, it just doesn't make sense for them to deal Wilson this offseason.  Next offseason, anything's fair game with Seattle owning their 2023 picks.   Given that Wilson's agent hasn't formally asked for a trade, timing-wise this seems akin to Watson's meeting with the FO pre-extension - and asking for input on GM/HC hires (which can't be included in contracts), in exchange for the said extension.  Except with Wilson's case, it's setting the stage for an exit - next offseason.  While at the same time giving Seattle's FO a clear path to address Wilson's concerns so it's not needed next year (change the O to help the pass game be less predictable, and get help on the OL).  Guess we'll see. 

If I'm Seattle, I modernize the O and address the OL.  Pretty clear the concerns raised by Wilson are also echoed by the WR's (both Metcalf & Lockett said D's could counter Seattle's pass O very easy by dropping guys deep).   It's far easier to replace Carroll than it is to replace a 32 year old Russell Wilson - who's likely to be at peak for 4-5 more years, provided said OL can keep him upright (and a more diverse passing O probably helps Wilson not have to try and be Superman on 1/3 to 1/4 of the passing plays).

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1 hour ago, FinSting said:
2 hours ago, childofpudding said:

I think Wilson should go to the Saints because Brees was also short

But then the Saints would need a receiver that takes 3 steps and catches a slant. 

You just described Michael Thomas.

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