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Glad to see Andy Janovich with a bit of a spotlight last night. Dude’s always been a great player.

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4 hours ago, TecmoSuperJoe said:

Who else was using a fullback in 2019 in their personnel packages extensively other than the 49ers? I'm legit curious. 

Ravens for sure. Patrick Ricard was a pro bowler in 2019.

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You could argue we wouldn't have gone deep into the playoffs without Develin punching holes

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18 hours ago, dll2000 said:

Tricky thing will be getting FBs when CFB doesn’t hardly use them.

Ravens FB Patrick Ricard was a college DT out of Maine. Teams will often transition players they feel meet the bill over to the position.

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38 minutes ago, Silver said:

Ravens have always used a fullback.

Yup. We had Le'Ron McClain, then Vonta Leach, then Kyle JuiceCheck and now Patrick Ricard. We've basically been trailblazing FB usage in the NFL.

And it only makes sense that FB usage is going to come back because as teams go extreme and go spread offenses, defenses will adjust and get smaller/faster, then you shrink back to those Wing-T principles and force those smaller players to take on blockers in the run game and they can't do it.

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1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

We've basically been trailblazing FB usage in the NFL.

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2 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

Yup. We had Le'Ron McClain, then Vonta Leach, then Kyle JuiceCheck and now Patrick Ricard. We've basically been trailblazing FB usage in the NFL.

And it only makes sense that FB usage is going to come back because as teams go extreme and go spread offenses, defenses will adjust and get smaller/faster, then you shrink back to those Wing-T principles and force those smaller players to take on blockers in the run game and they can't do it.

I get excited when thinking on how many great FBs we’ve had over the years, I mean the ones you listed above were just the latest 4, before/during that era we had: Sam Gash, Alan Ricard, Ovie Mughelli, and Lorenzo Neal operating the FB position. Such beasts, the lot of them.

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The future of the position is the H-back/full back hybrid that Kyle J plays. Need that versatility to keep the position viable, the old basher needs to go, it leads to a horrible future of head and neck injuries. 

Watching Andy Janovich, he doesnt lead with his head, he makes smart blocks as much as hard blocks.

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This is almost as cute as the Wildcat gimmick back in the late 00's

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5 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

The future of the position is the H-back/full back hybrid that Kyle J plays. Need that versatility to keep the position viable, the old basher needs to go, it leads to a horrible future of head and neck injuries. 

Watching Andy Janovich, he doesnt lead with his head, he makes smart blocks as much as hard blocks.

The H-back is a staple of the Zubiak offense. When we had Kyle J for us in 2014 we ran that scheme and it was perfect. Also helped to have Owen Daniels play that role as well, but right now you can go either route - either a true FB or a "hybrid" FB like JuiceCheck who can basically do it all.

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28 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

The H-back is a staple of the Zubiak offense. When we had Kyle J for us in 2014 we ran that scheme and it was perfect. Also helped to have Owen Daniels play that role as well, but right now you can go either route - either a true FB or a "hybrid" FB like JuiceCheck who can basically do it all.

Having lamar helps as a qb for a full back like that. 

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On 9/18/2020 at 8:52 AM, dll2000 said:

Tricky thing will be getting FBs when CFB doesn’t hardly use them.

Maybe, but there's always plenty of undersized TE's that can play an H-back type role. 

When I look at a guy like Hunter Bryant (6'2 245 per the Lions website), I often think of him being used in a FB role. He can play TE, obviously, but he's not as physically imposing as Hockenson. I'm sure his blocking is adequate enough. Stick him in the back with Swift/Johnson/Peterson and let Hock be the TE. 

I'm not sure we'll ever see a major resurgence of the old school FB that acts more like an extra lineman, but I can definitely see the H-back type role becoming a staple of offenses. Not sure how much of a learning curve would come with a TE transitioning to FB, but I can't imagine it being too extreme. 

 

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