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11 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

 

*Greg Olsen. Big omission right there. He basically put up WR numbers for Carolina (77/1,104/7).

A top tier TE giving you WR like production might be more valuable than any WR (outside of the top 3-5 guys - Hopkins, Julio, Michael Thomas, etc). 

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11 minutes ago, ET80 said:

*Greg Olsen. Big omission right there. He basically put up WR numbers for Carolina (77/1,104/7).

A top tier TE giving you WR like production might be more valuable than any WR (outside of the top 3-5 guys - Hopkins, Julio, Michael Thomas, etc). 

Yeah, if you look at it as Greg Olsen was his #1 receiver, Ginn his #2, Funchess his #3, and Cotchery his #4, it looks far more functional. They did an excellent job that year of using each guy correctly, too. Neither Ginn nor Cotchery were good all-around WRs, but Ginn as a deep threat and Cotchery as a slot possession guy are both very valuable.

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18 minutes ago, Jakuvious said:

Yeah, if you look at it as Greg Olsen was his #1 receiver, Ginn his #2, Funchess his #3, and Cotchery his #4, it looks far more functional. They did an excellent job that year of using each guy correctly, too. Neither Ginn nor Cotchery were good all-around WRs, but Ginn as a deep threat and Cotchery as a slot possession guy are both very valuable.

Mike Shula gets a lot of guff, but I always thought he did a very good job designing an offense tailored around the strengths of Cam and whoever he had to work with. 

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On 3/26/2020 at 10:23 PM, Jakuvious said:

Yeah, if you look at it as Greg Olsen was his #1 receiver, Ginn his #2, Funchess his #3, and Cotchery his #4, it looks far more functional. They did an excellent job that year of using each guy correctly, too. Neither Ginn nor Cotchery were good all-around WRs, but Ginn as a deep threat and Cotchery as a slot possession guy are both very valuable.

It is still easily worse than any other MVP-winning QB supporting cast other than maybe Lamar Jackson.  Maybe 2010 Brady too since Gronk and Hernandez were rookies, but you still have Wes Welker and Deion Branch who I'd take over Ginn/Cotchery.

But yeah, Olsen was very good that year.  Ginn was solid too, he fit well with what we were doing.  You had to commit to the inside run, gave him a lot of chances to free up down the field.

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On 3/26/2020 at 10:23 PM, Jakuvious said:

Yeah, if you look at it as Greg Olsen was his #1 receiver, Ginn his #2, Funchess his #3, and Cotchery his #4, it looks far more functional. They did an excellent job that year of using each guy correctly, too. Neither Ginn nor Cotchery were good all-around WRs, but Ginn as a deep threat and Cotchery as a slot possession guy are both very valuable.

I'm sorry having Greg Olsen (who was very good, but not top tier) doesn't make up for having Ted Ginn as the top receiver. We're all lying if we say that is even average for a supporting cast. People make up the same story about Lamar's supporting cast. How Mark Andrews makes up for not having a top WR and how it doesn't matter that the WR group was bottom tier because Greg Roman knew how to use them. I think Lamar even had more to work with than Cam did in his season. Hollywood is/will be good, he was just withheld during the season. 

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5 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said:

does this make jameis more or less appealing? 

Same amount. He is what he is. 

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