Calvert28 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 8:37 AM, Outpost31 said: Finished 1776 and now I am obsessed with the American Revolution. First, why in TF is there like one American Revolution movie in the past 20 years and like 97 WW2 movies over that same period? Cause our great revolutionist were lead by slave owners. It's been a taboo thing for awhile now that men of their times should be held to today standards. I mean there was a literal movement just a few years ago about tossing out the Declaration of Independence and rewriting because the people who wrote it had slaves. It would get bad press. Hell Passion of the Christ had not even gotten to theaters and everyone and their mother in Hollywood bashed it. There is a very strong bias against anything Hollywood doesn't believe in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Fight Club 3 comes out tonight, pretty excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 zimzum by gordan lish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 2:25 AM, beekay414 said: However, I plan on reading the Ender's Game books soon. Anybody recommend them? Bought The Ender Quartet recently. Going to knock those out over the course of the next month or so. The first two seem like fast reads but Xenocide seems like it's going to take a minute lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansNvolsR#1 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Gonna wrap up book 3 of the Malazan Book of the Fallen series then take a break with Devil in the White City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I never finished the Harry Potter series and never read book 7 because I never wanted it to end. But I think it’s time I go through them and finish them. I finished book 1 last night. Forgot how much shorter they were than other books I’ve read recently lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: I never finished the Harry Potter series and never read book 7 because I never wanted it to end. But I think it’s time I go through them and finish them. I finished book 1 last night. Forgot how much shorter they were than other books I’ve read recently lol They are crazy fast reads. I read all 7 books in like 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 hours ago, beekay414 said: They are crazy fast reads. I read all 7 books in like 10 days. I remember I was late to the party (book 3 was out when I started). Read the first 3 books in about a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Quote Cause our great revolutionist were lead by slave owners. It's been a taboo thing for awhile now that men of their times should be held to today standards. I mean there was a literal movement just a few years ago about tossing out the Declaration of Independence and rewriting because the people who wrote it had slaves. It would get bad press. Hell Passion of the Christ had not even gotten to theaters and everyone and their mother in Hollywood bashed it. There is a very strong bias against anything Hollywood doesn't believe in. Fun let me play! Malcolm X was a pimp for a time, so he would be Me Too'd these days. Therefore everything he ever did should be disregarded and he should be un-personed immediatley. Concurrently, Spike Lee should be blacklisted for propping up someone that was unfair and abusive to women. He too should be un-personed and his film Blakkklansman should be removed from contention for the Oscars because of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:43 PM, Calvert28 said: Cause our great revolutionist were lead by slave owners. It's been a taboo thing for awhile now that men of their times should be held to today standards. I mean there was a literal movement just a few years ago about tossing out the Declaration of Independence and rewriting because the people who wrote it had slaves. It would get bad press. Hell Passion of the Christ had not even gotten to theaters and everyone and their mother in Hollywood bashed it. There is a very strong bias against anything Hollywood doesn't believe in. 1 minute ago, BroncosFan2010 said: Fun let me play! Malcolm X was a pimp for a time, so he would be Me Too'd these days. Therefore everything he ever did should be disregarded and he should be un-personed immediatley. Concurrently, Spike Lee should be blacklisted for propping up someone that was unfair and abusive to women. He too should be un-personed and his film Blakkklansman should be removed from contention for the Oscars because of this. I'm not sure this is the best explanation. It's probably definitely why we haven't gotten a biopic on Washington, but an American Revolution movie does NOT need to focus on slave owners as heroes. John Adams did not own a single slave and was one of if not the most influential founding fathers. Benjamin Franklin was a slave owner who owned 2 slaves in his entire life, and he became an abolitionist during the American Revolution. There's plenty of historical context to suggest that it was the American Revolution that led to him (and others) becoming abolitionists. Slave owners of the time don't have to be propped up as heroes in a story on the American Revolution. Israel (Old Put) Putnam freed his slaves before the onset of the American Revolution. These are just facts off the top of my head, so I'm certain more Founding Fathers and heroes of the war could be focused on in order to make a movie on the American Revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Quote These are just facts off the top of my head, so I'm certain more Founding Fathers and heroes of the war could be focused on in order to make a movie on the American Revolution. No, I agree with you. My comment was mostly in jest at those who dont believe in grey when looking back at history. I presume they dont make many Revolutionary War movies because the money isnt there. These would be films that rely on an informed audience, or at least on interested in history. People would rather watch repetitive Super Hero narratives. Adding in the fact that Revolutionary War movies likely would require a large budget, and there just isnt a studio willing to take the gamble. I think the gamble would fail too. Its just not what people are interested in these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Outpost31 said: These are just facts off the top of my head, so I'm certain more Founding Fathers and heroes of the war could be focused on in order to make a movie on the American Revolution. Alexander Hamilton too! (though there's some debate as to whether he owned slaves, there's no definite evidence that he did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BroncosFan2010 said: No, I agree with you. My comment was mostly in jest at those who dont believe in grey when looking back at history. I presume they dont make many Revolutionary War movies because the money isnt there. These would be films that rely on an informed audience, or at least on interested in history. People would rather watch repetitive Super Hero narratives. Adding in the fact that Revolutionary War movies likely would require a large budget, and there just isnt a studio willing to take the gamble. I think the gamble would fail too. Its just not what people are interested in these days. To your first point, eh maybe. I think you hit it on the head with your last point - the studio's just don't want to gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Outpost31 said: I'm not sure this is the best explanation. It's probably definitely why we haven't gotten a biopic on Washington, but an American Revolution movie does NOT need to focus on slave owners as heroes. They were men of their times though. Was it right? No, but then again a film about Alexander the Great was made about how he was a great visionary and they still openly practiced pedophilia back then. Making the film about these men does not mean you condone what they did, but directors still find a way to skirt around these issues like with the Ancient Greeks when they want too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Making the film about these men does not mean you condone what they did, but directors still find a way to skirt around these issues like with the Ancient Greeks when they want too. That's true. Every story doesn't have to have a hero. Though admittedly it probably does help ticket sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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