LionArkie Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: My sweet, sweet Epenesa... Love this thread, by the way. Thanks for putting the work in. If Vaitai can get healthy and show that he's a solid player, I think the Jonah Jackson/Vaitai decision was a pretty wise move. It looks like Jackson is the real deal. Yeah, I liked our G pickups this year. It does seem like Quinn knows how to grab those iol guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionArkie Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, LionArkie said: Yeah, I liked our G pickups this year. It does seem like Quinn knows how to grab those iol guys. in the draft that is. I'm not very enamored with BQ in free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, LionArkie said: in the draft that is. I'm not very enamored with BQ in free agency. Yeah, the FA stuff is concerning. I think it speaks to his experience in the NE organization: good at drafting IOL, because that's often what you're scouting in the mid/late 1st, but not good in FA, which great teams like NE rarely have to rely on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Do the NFCN draft class grades to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Do the NFCN draft class grades to date. I might consider it when Week 4 rolls around. There's a few groups to update already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, dll2000 said: Do the NFCN draft class grades to date. I hate that you suggested this... but here you go CHICAGO BEARS Jaylon Johnson, CB: 80.3 Cole Kmet, TE: 62.2 Darnell Mooney, WR: 74.6 Kindle Vildor, CB: N/A Trevis Gipson, OLB: 53.3 Lachavius Simmons, OL: N/A Arlington Hambright, OG: N/A Average Class Score = 67.6 No Score = 3/7 = 42.8%  If I didn't need another reason to hate the Vikings, having to do this for 15 picks would do it. MINNESOTA VIKINGS Justin Jefferson, WR - 60.3 Jeff Gladney, CB - 48.5 Ezra Cleveland, OL - N/A Cam Dantzler, CB - 59.8 DJ Wonnum, DE - 62.4 James Lynch, DT - N/A Troy Dye, LB - 48.1 Harrison Hand, CB - N/A KJ Osborn, WR - N/A Blake Brandel, OL - N/A Josh Metellus, S - 60.0 Kenny Willekes, DE - N/A Nate Stanley, QB - N/A Brian Cole, CB - N/A > With Miami Kyle Hinton, OG - N/A  Average Score = 56.52% No Score = 9/15 = 60%  GREEN BAY PACKERS Jordan Love, QB - N/A AJ Dillon, RB - 91.2 Josiah Deguara, TE - 71.2 Kamal Martin, LB - N/A Jon Runyan, OL - 71.3 Jake Hanson, OC - N/A Simon Stepaniak, OT - N/A Vernon Scott, S - 80.1 Jonathan Garvin, LB - 53.1  Average Score = 73.38 No Score = 4/9 = 44.44% Edited September 24, 2020 by Karnage84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: I hate that you suggested this... but here you go CHICAGO BEARS Jaylon Johnson, CB: 80.3 Cole Kmet, TE: 62.2 Darnell Mooney, WR: 74.6 Kindle Vildor, CB: N/A Trevis Gipson, OLB: 53.3 Lachavius Simmons, OL: N/A Arlington Hambright, OG: N/A Average Class Score = 67.6 No Score = 3/7 = 42.8% So how does the grading translate to 100 pt. scale? 0 = what?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, dll2000 said: So how does the grading translate to 100 pt. scale? 0 = what?  These are just PFF scores. I average out anyone that actually has a score. If you don't have a score, it isn't counted in that number. That's what the "No Score" is about. It's concerning when you are a team that has over half of your draft picks without any playtime (like Minnesota having 60% of their picks without a score). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: These are just PFF scores. I average out anyone that actually has a score. If you don't have a score, it isn't counted in that number. That's what the "No Score" is about. It's concerning when you are a team that has over half of your draft picks without any playtime (like Minnesota having 60% of their picks without a score). I am trying to translate PFF grades. PFF translates -2 to +2 grade in .5 increments on each play to a 100 pt. scale. 0 is supposed to be expected play.  So 0 should be their average.  But math only makes sense to me if 0 is 80.  Then .5 is 85 and so on through 100. Trying to figure out if I have that right or I am missing something.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, dll2000 said: I am trying to translate PFF grades. PFF translates -2 to +2 grade in .5 increments on each play to a 100 pt. scale. 0 is supposed to be expected play.  So 0 should be their average.  But math only makes sense to me if 0 is 80.  Then .5 is 85 and so on through 100. Trying to figure out if I have that right or I am missing something.    Im not really dissecting the grade itself. A 0 means that they haven't played a snap in a game yet. I let the PFF guys do what they get paid to do while I just nerd out on an internet forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 5:48 PM, dll2000 said: I am trying to translate PFF grades. PFF translates -2 to +2 grade in .5 increments on each play to a 100 pt. scale. 0 is supposed to be expected play.  So 0 should be their average.  But math only makes sense to me if 0 is 80.  Then .5 is 85 and so on through 100. Trying to figure out if I have that right or I am missing something.    https://www.pff.com/grades?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr5rv0O6L7AIVtB-tBh1-ZQWTEAAYASAAEgKQovD_BwE This talks about how they take the grades and convert to a 100 pt scale.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 DETROIT LIONS 2020 SELECTIONS - Weeks 1-4 1- Jeffrey Okudah, CB - Wk 1 - 2 = 28.6; Wk 1-4 = 29.3* Actually had a 59.0 grade against NO but has been dragged down by two other difficult weeks FWIW 2 - D'Andre Swift, RB: Wk 1-2 = 58.6; Wk 1-4 = 64.5 (72.8 Rushing/54.9 Receiving) 3 - Julian Okwara, DE: Wk 1-2 = 49.7; Wk 1-4 = 45.4 3 - Jonah Jackson, OG: Wk 1-2 = 66.1; Wk 1-4 = 64.2 (72.8 Pass/63.0 Run) 4 - Logan Stenberg, OG: Wk 1-2 No score; Wk 1-4 No score 5 - Quintez Cephus, WR: Wk 1-2 = 63.5; Wk 1-4 = 62.9 5 - Jason Huntley, RB 66.4 (with Philadelphia Eagles) 6 - John Penisini, DT: Wk 1-2 = 40.2; Wk 1-4 = 54.1 (54.6 Run/55.2 Pass) 7 - Jashon Cornell, DE: Wk 1-2 = No score; Wk 1-4 = No score Average Class Score = Wk 1-2 = 53.3; Wk 1-4 = 53.4 Players without score = 2/9 = 22.22% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 okudah could certainly turn out to be a good player but the case is about 99.9% closed that drafting him at 3 was a criminal waste of draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 1ST ROUND DRAFT CLASS (Weeks 1 - 4) - Updated Oct. 9 1 - CIN - Joe Burrow, QB: Wk 1 - 4 = 79.9 2 - WSH - Chase Young, DE: Wk 1-4 = 78.0 3- DET - Jeffrey Okudah, CB: Wk 1-4 = 29.3 4 - NYG - Andrew Thomas, OT: Wk 1-4 = 53.7 5 - MIA - Tua Tagovaiola, QB: Wk 1- 4 = N/A > No games played 6 - LAC - Justin Herbert, QB: Wk 1-4 = 69.0 7 - CAR - Derrick Brown, DT: Wk 1 - 4 = 58.6 8 - ARI - Isaiah Simmons, LB: Wk 1 - 4 = 32.3 9 - JAC - CJ Henderson, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 63.1 10 - CLE - Jedrick Wills, OT: Wk 1- 4 = 63.9 11 - NYJ - Mekhi Becton, OT: Wk 1 - 4 = 72.6 12 - LV - Henry Ruggs, WR: Wk 1 - 4 = 57.2 13 - TB - Tristan Wirfs, OT: Wk 1 - 5 = 70.9* Included CHI game in score 14 - SF - Javon Kinlaw, DT: Wk 1- 4 = 69.7 15 - DEN - Jerry Jeudy, WR: Wk 1-4 = 68.8 16 - ATL - AJ Terrell, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 63.4 17 - DAL - Ceedee Lamb, WR: Wk 1- 4 = 65.2 18 - MIA - Austin Jackson, OT: Wk 1 - 4 = 49.8 19 - LV - Damon Arnette, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 58.7 20 - JAC - K'Lavon Chaisson, LB: Wk 1- 4 = 52.9 21 - PHI - Jalen Reagor, WR: Wk 1 - 4 = 54.4 22 - MIN - Justin Jefferson, WR: Wk 1 - 4 = 90.6 23 - LAC - Kenneth Murray, LB: Wk 1 - 4 = 46.6 24 - NO - Cesar Ruiz, OC: Wk 1 - 4 = 60.1 25 - SF - Brandon Aiyuk, WR: Wk 1 - 4 = 71.8 26 - GB - Jordan Love, QB: Wk 1 - 4 = N/A > No games played 27 - SEA - Jordyn Brooks, LB: Wk 1 -4 = 41.1 28 - BAL - Patrick Queen, LB: Wk 1 - 4 = 29.3 29 - TEN - Isaiah Wilson, OT: Wk 1 - 4 = N/A > No games played 30 - MIA - Noah Igbinoghene, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 32.6 31 - MIN - Jeff Gladney, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 54.3 32 - KC - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB: Wk 1 - 4 = 67.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 POTENTIAL LIONS 2020 DRAFT TARGETS/FAN FAVOURITES (Weeks 1 - 4) Kyle Dugger, S: Wk 1 - 4 = 57.2 Ross Blacklock, DT: Wk 1 - 4 = 40.1 Jonathan Taylor, RB: Wk 1 - 4 = 69.0 Marlon Davidson, DE/DT: Wk 1 - 4 = 54.6 Trevon Diggs, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 44.5 AJ Epenesa, DE: Wk 1 - 4 = 54.4 Josh Uche, LB: Wk 1 - 4 = No score Kristian Fulton, CB: Wk 1 - 4 = 64.2 AJ Dillon, RB: Wk 1 - 4 = 86.7 * On 8 carries Jeremy Chinn, S: Wk 1 -4 = 44.4 Neville Gallimore, DT: Wk 1 - 4: 53.2 Zack Moss, RB: Wk 1 - 4 = 63.4 Malik Harrison, LB: Wk 1 - 4 = 55.0 Joshua Kelley, RB: Wk 1 - 4 = 59.2 Bradlee Anae, DE: Wk 1 - 4 = 77.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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