Blackstar12 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 With the way Tannehill managed to turn his career around what other QBs would have had a similar path if they ended up in the right system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Jameis Winston whenever he takes over for Drew could flourish in Payton's system. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sam Darnold still has a shot if he can get away from Adam Gase ASAP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozizaki Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Does Drew Brees count? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said: With the way Tannehill managed to turn his career around what other QBs would have had a similar path if they ended up in the right system? 2022 Joe Burrow if he lives long enough behind that swinging gate Cincinnati calls an OLine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) got to a team with a good OL, good run game, and good downfield weapons to capitalize on play action he was never awful for miami, he was in that dalton-esque purgatory. he's in that average-ish tier of QB along with guys like cousins/carr whose level of play will essentially reflect their surroundings. good enough to win with.. but requires very good roster construction. the titans already had all those pieces in place, so in their situation it made plenty of sense to pay him Edited September 22, 2020 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sam Darnold I hope he ends up with the steelers if the jets get the number 1 pick and take lawerence, making Sam available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnifico Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chargers said: Jameis Winston whenever he takes over for Drew could flourish in Payton's system. Kamara Thomas, Sanders plus some warm bodies. Cook, Hill and Troutman. Top 10 OL. Payton Playcalling. I feel like Brees will be stubborn this year but that a great situation to walk into potentially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 As for the "would have" group: Mark Sanchez comes to mind, had the Jets not absolutely squandered him by the time he left. I always thought Matt Cassell played well enough in similar circumstances- good o-line and run game. Trent Edwards before the concussions ruined him. Jake Locker got zero help from Tennessee. David Carr is an obvious choice. Those are the "showed promise at one point but never got a great shot at salvaging themselves before it was too late" guys I can think of that I remember scouting. As for guys who still can, take your pick. Mariota, Winston, Bortles, Rosen, Trubisky after Chicago, Brissett, Bridgewater*... It's basically the "high pick to a bad team and it didn't work out" redemption story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nozizaki said: Does Drew Brees count? I'm guessing OP means a quarterback who didn't have a good career, but would have if they were in the right system with the right coach. Someone that comes to mind immediately is Randall Cunningham. He would thrive today. Edited September 23, 2020 by TecmoSuperJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: With the way Tannehill managed to turn his career around what other QBs would have had a similar path if they ended up in the right system? seems that Bridgewater was doing well last year, but will that translate this year? It should, he has weapons, but wait and see. Tannehill seems accurate, has good WR's and OL and of course running game. Not much of that was available in miami. It's good to see player leave a team and then have success elsewhere. I can't imagine anything worse than being stuck on a team that is terrible and will only get worse for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: I'm guessing OP means a quarterback who didn't have a good career, but would have if they were in the right system with the right coach. Someone that comes to mind immediately is Randall Cunningham. He would thrive today. Good one. Buddy Ryan didn't seem to give a darn about the offense, and the QB coach that was helping him (Doug Scovil) died in 1989. Then, the Eagles hired Craptite, Randall got hurt twice, and he was eventually out of football until rescued by the Vikings. Another old-school QB that didn't get much of a chance: Guy Benjamin, Montana's backup from 1981-83. Here is an interesting four-part story about him: https://miamimigraine.blogspot.com/2008/06/guy-benjamin-and-david-woodley-part-one.html The Dolphins drafted him in the second round of the 1978 draft out of Stanford (the highest they drafted a QB since drafting Bob Griese in Round 1 in 1967). However, the veterans (this is from Guy himself. He made a comment on one of the entries) got more protective of each other since their SB-winning years, and they didn't want who they called a "Stanford Hippie" taking over from Griese. Eventually, Shula made David Woodley (a 1980 8th round pick by the Dolphins) the starter, and shipped Guy to the Saints that same year. They wouldn't play him (even though they were 1-15), and when Bum took over the next year, Guy demanded a trade to SF. Well, guess who was there? Joe Montana. He backed him up for three seasons before being out of football. Now, I don't know how good this guy would have been, but Tony Hill (ex-Cowboy WR) allegedly said that he was the second-best QB he ever played with (after Staubach. Tony played with Benjamin in college). However, QB-needy teams in Round 2, like KC and the Giants, should have taken a flier on him. Also, I don't know why NE took Matt Cavanaugh (who didn't have much arm strength. He would eventually succeed Benjamin as Montana's backup in San Fran) over Benjamin. He really didn't make his mark there, and they ended up drafting Eason five years later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: I'm guessing OP means a quarterback who didn't have a good career, but would have if they were in the right system with the right coach. Someone that comes to mind immediately is Randall Cunningham. He would thrive today. Perhaps I misunderstood his meaning, but I figured he was referring to Brees pre-NOs where he was solid but not GOAT territory until going there and blowing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remember The Oilers Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Rich Gannon was excellent in his Raider stint, but before was almost non-existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUGmen Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) I actually like Mariota and feel he would fit perfectly in a scheme with a McDaniels/Pats or Payton. Edited September 23, 2020 by RUGmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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