MWil23 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, The LBC said: Who is now better known and arguably making more money than he was as a team doc due to the media contracts/retainers he's signed... for his expertise. Though I suppose, when your issue is practically application of your medical knowledge and not the actual knowledge itself, maybe that's exactly the sort of job you should have. Sort of like the old adage, those who cannot do, teach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 A player tweeted that once you opt in to receive medical attention from the team, you can't sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, RaidersAreOne said: A player tweeted that once you opt in to receive medical attention from the team, you can't sue. Source cited: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Former nfl OL Ryan Harris adds that per cba if a player accepts team medical care they can't sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: A player tweeted that once you opt in to receive medical attention from the team, you can't sue. U mean former nfl player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Now we know why Lynn is adamant that Tyrod is starting when healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cha ching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: A player tweeted that once you opt in to receive medical attention from the team, you can't sue. Even if he could sue and could win, the payout would have to be ridiculous IMO for him to justify it given that the NFL would blackball him forever in retaliation. Taylor is still going to make millions even if he never gets a starting job again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: Why we allow corporations to use their own "doctors" is beyond me. What a disgrace. What's the alternative ? About 2000 NFL players count on the team doc every week and 98% of them have a positive outcome. We only hear about the few who don't They can always get a 2nd opinion and the Hippocratic Oath applies regardless of who writes the check. There are a lot of benefits to the arrangement - and the few times where there is a potential conflict of interest- can be handled under current guidelines. Tyrod shouldn't have a punctured lung, but non-team docs make mistakes too. If you're saying the team doc is beholding to the corporation over the needs of the player...injuring Tyrod isn't consistent with that assertion. Quite the opposite. If you're saying Tyrod shouldn't take the injection at all, then your issue is really with Tyrod agreeing to it. He didn't have to take it, but he wanted to play. If he was coerced or not properly informed/consented then its an area for further investigation 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Even if he could sue and could win, the payout would have to be ridiculous IMO for him to justify it given that the NFL would blackball him forever in retaliation. Please. You say that with such certainty, as though that's ever happened before, let alone with a Quarterback. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Deflategate part 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: What's the alternative ? About 2000 NFL players count on the team doc every week and 98% of them have a positive outcome. We only hear about the few who don't They can always get a 2nd opinion and the Hippocratic Oath applies regardless of who writes the check. There are a lot of benefits to the arrangement - and the few times where there is a potential conflict of interest- can be handled under current guidelines. Tyrod shouldn't have a punctured lung, but non-team docs make mistakes too. If you're saying the team doc is beholding to the corporation over the needs of the player...injuring Tyrod isn't consistent with that assertion. Quite the opposite. If you're saying Tyrod shouldn't take the injection at all, then your issue is really with Tyrod agreeing to it. He didn't have to take it, but he wanted to play. If he was coerced or not properly informed/consented then its an area for further investigation And from what I've read today, punctured lungs are a common risk of this type of injection, so it's not like this was a .00001% chance of happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Iowa Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Sean Payton planting this little seed into his playbook for when he needs to sit Brees, but can't because... it's Brees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: What's the alternative ? About 2000 NFL players count on the team doc every week and 98% of them have a positive outcome. We only hear about the few who don't They can always get a 2nd opinion and the Hippocratic Oath applies regardless of who writes the check. There are a lot of benefits to the arrangement - and the few times where there is a potential conflict of interest- can be handled under current guidelines. Tyrod shouldn't have a punctured lung, but non-team docs make mistakes too. If you're saying the team doc is beholding to the corporation over the needs of the player...injuring Tyrod isn't consistent with that assertion. Quite the opposite. If you're saying Tyrod shouldn't take the injection at all, then your issue is really with Tyrod agreeing to it. He didn't have to take it, but he wanted to play. If he was coerced or not properly informed/consented then its an area for further investigation I think the bolded is the crux of it from an outsider's perspective, because with the NFL's culture of playing hurt at pretty much all cost, you can run into these situations where players are being fast and loose with their own health to keep their job. As a fan, I'd prefer if we took more of those decisions out of the players' hands. We have for concussions and it's been a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: As a fan, I'd prefer if we took more of those decisions out of the players' hands. We have for concussions and it's been a success. good point, thx. Since the puncture is such a rare occurrence, what would an independent MD have suggested to Tyrod ? " Tyrod - There's a 2 % chance of complications, so no go on the pre-game injection " Lots of players get pre-game injections (without getting punctured) , up to a dozen each week per the reports I've seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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