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  1. 1. what you thinking?

    • Soon to be a great WR, he's coming!
      0
    • Showing signs of improvement, stick with him
      12
    • Undecided
      3
    • Not good, if he doesn't improve soon, he's surely a bust
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    • A bust.
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He is up there, I think Dominique Easley might be the worst, you also have Malcom Brown on that. Just for fun during the first two season Sony Michel only has 263 yards and 1 TD more then Lawrence Maroney's first two seasons. 

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1 hour ago, The Third Rider said:

No offense but I am not buying this whole scheme is too difficult. This has been the excuse that has been trotted out there for so many years to explain why they can't develop good WRs. I was watching an interview with Josh McDaniels when asked about the playbook and he says he had not seen the playbook since 2011... I don't necessarily think it's an easy scheme but I do find it hard to believe that their scheme is so over complicated that they willingly hinder their offense from week to week. Bill in his almost two decades in New England the best WR he drafted was Edelman and he was a QB of all things (Deion Branch being the 2nd). After so many years drafting TEs he eventually hit on Gronk and Aaron but his track record drafting WRs and RBs is pretty abysmal.

Never thought it was scheme, more so thought it was Tom going Kobe on them. 

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WR drafting has been horrendous .. I wouldn't be surprised if next year is a double dip in the position with a fingers crossed moment of praying one of the two is decent. Branch was good .. Edelman was great .. I still think Berrios could turn into something but other than that all awful. What happened to Gunnar having the best camp ever?? 

RB has been pretty good overall outside of Maroney imo .. Shane Vareen was great .. I think Ridley would have had a good career if not for his injury .. James White is a great pick.. Michel isn't great but he helped win a super bowl .. and Harris has looked pretty good to me to start this season. 

TE is mixed but overall pretty good .. Graham and Watson had long careers so neither were really a bust .. David Thomas was a meh 3rd or 4th rounder.. Gronk is HOF .. Hernandez could have been a multi-time pro bowler .. that's a pretty good record. My only complaint since then is the lack of TE's drafted, not who was drafted. The overall track record will depend on how well Asiasi and Keene turn out though. If the two of them work out this team could be based of 2 TE sets again and be very successful. 

Right now we've got to hope that Harry can at least turn into something.. he's not a #1 .. but can he at least be worthy of a roster spot?? I'm personally more worried about getting an Edelman replacement.. this offense NEEDS someone good in the slot or it quickly falls apart on 3rd down

 

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7 hours ago, The Third Rider said:

No offense but I am not buying this whole scheme is too difficult. This has been the excuse that has been trotted out there for so many years to explain why they can't develop good WRs. I was watching an interview with Josh McDaniels when asked about the playbook and he says he had not seen the playbook since 2011... I don't necessarily think it's an easy scheme but I do find it hard to believe that their scheme is so over complicated that they willingly hinder their offense from week to week. Bill in his almost two decades in New England the best WR he drafted was Edelman and he was a QB of all things (Deion Branch being the 2nd). After so many years drafting TEs he eventually hit on Gronk and Aaron but his track record drafting WRs and RBs is pretty abysmal.

I think we have proof that Harry's lacking is more than just scheme and/or playbook. It' now 2 QBs whom Harry can't get on the same page with. We have specific plays that highlight his lack of football awareness (he doesn't know when he's open....I think he just runs the route he is given, but there is no improv there when there's a cushion or a soft zone. He doesn't feel it. Like if he's got a curl route and he has a CB in trail, he'd still run the curl instead of continuing)

I think that can get coached, but again, it's just disappointing we drafted it in the first round. 

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