topwop1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: To be fair, he is explosive. We see it on occasion. I just don't think Nagy can get him in favorable spots offensively and Tabor can't get guys blocking well on ST You mean favourable spots like running him into the middle of the line on 3rd & 1 after a timeout? Really brilliant play call there. Caught the whole Colts D off guard completely.. To me Patterson should not be used as anything more than a gadget player on O. The fact that he is our defacto #2 RB right now is quite the joke. Hopefully they call up Lamar Miller sometime soon because this experiment isn't working. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I said a while back if we're fielding a trash offense again then im ready to fire Nagy and Pace. 1/4 of the season down and I'm heavily leaning toward this. Pace has built up a great defense but incompetent offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Sugashane said: I said a while back if we're fielding a trash offense again then im ready to fire Nagy and Pace. 1/4 of the season down and I'm heavily leaning toward this. Pace has built up a great defense but incompetent offense. Welcome. Reality hurts, but it will eventually sets you free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sugashane said: I said a while back if we're fielding a trash offense again then im ready to fire Nagy and Pace. 1/4 of the season down and I'm heavily leaning toward this. Pace has built up a great defense but incompetent offense. In no way is our defense "great"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: LOL. Doesn't trust him. You don't know TE positions and the assignments associated with them do you? Perhaps not. The bad news is: Pace doesn't either. I'd like to see Kmet targeted some, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, dafreak said: In no way is our defense "great"... The defense has been great for 3 years now, combining all 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, dafreak said: In no way is our defense "great"... For as much as the offense constantly puts them in poor positions game after game after game...they are pretty darn good bro. Imagine of we actually had a competent offense that was consistently good? The D would eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Quote 34 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: Did Kmet get any targets today? No. Remember when Nagy said he can't stump him at all in meetings? Maybe he meant just in blocking assignments, because he sure doesn't trust him running routes Box score says he got one target but I don't remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, topwop1 said: For as much as the offense constantly puts them in poor positions game after game after game...they are pretty darn good bro. Imagine of we actually had a competent offense that was consistently good? The D would eat. Has nothing to do with the offense. The D gives up way too many 3rd and long plays and commits way too many penalties on crucial plays. It is all coaching, eventually you will come around, you are just no there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, beardown3231 said: Perhaps not. The bad news is: Pace doesn't either. I'd like to see Kmet targeted some, don't you? There are two main things that you need to take into consideration. 1) Nagy has been very clear that Kmet is the Y in this offense and their assignments are saved mainly for outside blocking plays -- especially for young talents like Kmet. 2) Right now and with the U TE (Graham) and the other Y TE (Harris) playing well, there is no need to rush him into the offense. 3) Rookie TE's very rarely ever produce. Kelce never started a single game or caught a pass in his rookie year and that under Doug Pederson and Reid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: Rookie TE's very rarely ever produce. Kelce never started a single game or caught a pass in his rookie year and that under Doug Pederson and Reid. Uh... Because he was on IR for the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, abstract_thought said: Uh... Because he was on IR for the entire season. No he was active and then sent to IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: No he was active and then sent to IR. From ESPN: Kelce never played a snap last season and that was a huge letdown for the Chiefs. He dressed for the season-opening game in Jacksonville but didn’t play. Then a sore knee kept him from practicing and he finally had surgery, ending his season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: There are two main things that you need to take into consideration. 1) Nagy has been very clear that Kmet is the Y in this offense and their assignments are saved mainly for outside blocking plays -- especially for young talents like Kmet. 2) Right now and with the U TE (Graham) and the other Y TE (Harris) playing well, there is no need to rush him into the offense. 3) Rookie TE's very rarely ever produce. Kelce never started a single game or caught a pass in his rookie year and that under Doug Pederson and Reid. And all of that is perfectly fine, and sure not many #43 overall picks for that matter produce in year 1 (you know my thoughts on 2nd-7th round picks in general ). Fact is, they had a glaring hole at TE. I wish the GM would've found either competent fixes that can contribute immediately- I suppose you can say Graham has done that- or upgraded signifcantly at WR to help out these QB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: There are two main things that you need to take into consideration. 1) Nagy has been very clear that Kmet is the Y in this offense and their assignments are saved mainly for outside blocking plays -- especially for young talents like Kmet. 2) Right now and with the U TE (Graham) and the other Y TE (Harris) playing well, there is no need to rush him into the offense. 3) Rookie TE's very rarely ever produce. Kelce never started a single game or caught a pass in his rookie year and that under Doug Pederson and Reid. I wouldn't really be concerned about Kmet not getting much playing time in year 1. Yes they drafted him fairly high but TE is a hard position to just plug and play and expect great results off the hop. Now multiply that even more considering the shortened offseason and no preseason. That was more of a pick for the future seeing how they signed Graham and Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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