Jeezy Fanatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Coming into this year I thought that Jamison Crowder was the Redskins biggest breakout candidate with opportunity to establish himself as the best slot receiver in the league. Flash forward, through 4 games Crowder has 14 receptions for 106 yards, a couple costly fumbles on special teams, and overall has been a non-factor. What I'm curious about for those of you who follow film or breakdowns of the game more than I do is: a) Is he not getting open? b) Has the offensive design changed so that there's less opprtunities/routes for him? c) Has Chris Thompson's receiving ability minimized his role? d) He just sucks now? (I can take this one and run with it as required) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I think he's been dealing with nagging injuries. There was a report about it. I'll try and find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 May be injuries, may be due to lack of deep threat opening up underneath for him, may be explosion of Chris Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTaylorsaPIMP Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Similar to Reed I think there are 2 main factors here: 1)Not fully healthy 2) Really miss Desean stretching the field and taking the top off the defense. While Pryor is fast, he doesn't stretch the field like DJax did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Djax is not there to stretch the field. But others picked up on the other stuff. Injuries have nagged as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar29020 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 he has been invisible. he should be our number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 13 hours ago, mar29020 said: he has been invisible. he should be our number 1. I don't see him ever being a #1. There's nothing wrong with that. He's an incredibly good slot receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar29020 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Woz said: I don't see him ever being a #1. There's nothing wrong with that. He's an incredibly good slot receiver. why not? pats use a slot guy as the number 1. crowder has been really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, mar29020 said: why not? pats use a slot guy as the number 1. crowder has been really good. Gronk is the Pats #1. Also the best offense the pats had was when they had Randy moss on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar29020 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 4 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Gronk is the Pats #1. Also the best offense the pats had was when they had Randy moss on the outside. gronk only plays half the year if that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 You cannot compare the Patriots to the Redskins. I dont care what way you spin it, the offenses are completely different. The need for smurfs for them are different than the need for smurfs for us. If you look at their offense, there is no #1. When Edelman has been out its been Chris Hogan. Or Amendola. Or Malcom Mitchell for a while. Its whoever they put on the field that is in that position against the read for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreeK1973 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Injuries is the biggest reason and not just now but during training camp. he missed a lot IMO and that has hurt him in the first few games, I expect him to pick it up going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashing202 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The O was good on Monday so I'll expect Crowder to step up from here and out the O been much more healthy since week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 4:31 PM, MKnight82 said: Gronk is the Pats #1. Also the best offense the pats had was when they had Randy moss on the outside. Edelman is the Pats #1 when healthy and he’s a Slot wr. I believe Amendola has taken over that role for them this year but obviously not with the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 It’s a combination of what everyone has mentioned but no one has mentioned the obvious, Kirk has missed Crowder several times when he was open or chosen not to throw to him in favor of a different wr downfield. It’s not Crowder’s fault that Kirk overthrew him inside the 10 yardline vs the Eagles in what could have been a game winning TD. It’s not Crowder’s fault that Kirk missed him on a possible TD against he Rams, as well as Doctson on 2, Thompson on 1 and Pryor on 1. We ran the ball a lot vs the Rams which meant less opportunities for Crowder. It’s not Crowder’s fault or Reed’s fault that Kirk has has turned them down when open to go to other options downfield or to Thompson. In the Raiders & Chiefs games Kirk went downfield for big plays which meant less opportunities for guys like Crowder. On the last pass to Doctson vs the Chiefs, Kirk had Crowder open for at least a 5 yard Reception, a first down and maybe a TD. It’s not Crowder’s fault that once again Kirk turned down the option to Crowder for the first down and maybe more to go to Doctson for what should have been the game winning TD. So, Crowder’s drop in production is more outside of his control than it is anything he’s done or not done. Obviously the punt return fumbles are all on him and it was a main reason we lost to the Eagles and cost us a possible shut out vs the Raiders but I put his fall in production more on his hamstring injury and Kirk rather than him or the loss of Djax The loss of Djax has certainly hurt our downfield passing game and the short passing game indirectly because he always drew double coverage on deeee routes but beyond that, Crowder is still getting open, Kirk has just overthrown him for what should have been a TD and not thrown to him a handful of other times when he was open, two of which could have been TDs as well. I have to be honest, it bothers me that Kirk hasn’t targeted or missed his most reliable wr more than he has, it’s been a major factor in at least one of our losses and a contributing factor in our loss vs the Chiefs. If Kirk targets Crowder when he probably should have in each of our games and doesn’t overthrow him vs the Eagles in the redzone Crowder probably has 25 recs, 300 yards and 2 or 3 TDs right now. So, the fact that Crowder hasn’t been targeted more in the passing game is more on Kirk & Jay/play calling than it is on Crowder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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