Apparition Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, 7DnBrnc53 said: I have learned a lot. I have learned that certain QB's get more credit than they deserve because their team wins rings, like Montana and Brady. And, that is media-driven. How are the Patriots doing this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Starless said: How are the Patriots doing this year? Such a poor take Brady had his choice to go to any stacked team. Patriots had to home a washed up cam newton and a watered down college offense could carry them. We all new they were gonna go threw a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Such a poor take Brady had his choice to go to any stacked team. Patriots had to home a washed up cam newton and a watered down college offense could carry them. We all new they were gonna go threw a rebuild. despite the fact you used threw instead of through... why in god's name do you think they are going through a rebuild a year after winning the division and going to the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, 7DnBrnc53 said: That doesn't mean that Brady is great. That just means that Winston was really reckless with the ball. Ok. Brady not being reckless with the football improved our defensive scoring this year top 10. he gets credit for that no? Brady is great for other reasons, the offensive production..20 from 20 in TD conversions within the red zone. Best in the league. His on fire right now and the WRs arent even 100% healthy yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: despite the fact you used threw instead of through... why in god's name do you think they are going through a rebuild a year after winning the division and going to the playoffs? I thought they had to eat Brady's last year of dead money, also don't believe in the QBs , or weapons don't believe tom would have been lighting it up either for them. Also a lot of opt out a. I'm not very fond of the AFC East outside of Buffalo that feat is overstated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Such a poor take Brady had his choice to go to any stacked team. Patriots had to home a washed up cam newton and a watered down college offense could carry them. We all new they were gonna go threw a rebuild. Okay but this guy's narrative has always been that somehow the "system" and "always playing with good defenses" were responsible for Brady's success. But the facts are that Brady took the team to multiple Super Bowls while playing with bad defenses, and the "system" is absolutely sputtering on the offensive side of the ball, despite giving Newton largely the same supporting cast as Brady had last year (which is roughly equivalent to the one he had in 2006 when he took the team to the doorstep of the Super Bowl). Meanwhile, Brady is playing at an elite level, at age 43, in a brand new system. Admittedly, the offense around him is stacked, but compare the results to those with former #1 overall pick Jameis Winston a year ago. Edited October 27, 2020 by Starless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUGmen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 7DnBrnc53 said: That doesn't mean that Brady is great. That just means that Winston was really reckless with the ball. So Brady isn’t great? Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUGmen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Such a poor take Brady had his choice to go to any stacked team. Patriots had to home a washed up cam newton and a watered down college offense could carry them. We all new they were gonna go threw a rebuild. Stacked team that went 7-9 last year and missed the playoffs for the 12th straight time? Why are people acting as if this is Durant joining the GSW? Edited October 28, 2020 by RUGmen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotsWin! Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Brady is making his haters so miserable this year. The only argument they had (although still laughable) was that Brady was a product of BB... and Brady goes and destroys that argument this year. They got nothing left, so sad lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 The Bucs had most of the right ingredients, but nobody to cook them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Starless said: The Bucs had most of the right ingredients, but nobody to cook them. 7-9with a qb who led the league In picks and needed lasik surgery lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, RUGmen said: Stacked team that went 7-9 last year and missed the playoffs for the 12th straight time? Why are people acting as if this is Durant joining the GSW? They were pretty stacked minus winston who led the league in picks. Look at what Peyton Manning did on a denver team that finished 8-8 the year before. Yesss the team is stacked if you can't admit that we're done here.it is remarkable what Brady is doing at 43 with a weird off-season and learning a new offense.That bucs cupboard was far from bare though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUGmen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: 7-9with a qb who led the league In picks and needed lasik surgery lol 7-9 is the new 12-4, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, Starless said: despite giving Newton largely the same supporting cast as Brady had last year (which is roughly equivalent to the one he had in 2006 when he took the team to the doorstep of the Super Bowl). Dude they're running a completely different offense with Newton like common and Brady I thought was poor last season with the talent around him don't see it being better this year had he stayed even with the covid opt outs. He left at the perfect time. That being said the Patriots are getting overly criticized by your narrative. They went from a 25 million per year qb to a running qb who is past his experation date making 7 mill per year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUGmen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: They were pretty stacked minus winston who led the league in picks. Look at what Peyton Manning did on a denver team that finished 8-8 the year before. Yesss the team is stacked if you can't admit that we're done here.it is remarkable what Brady is doing at 43 with a weird off-season and learning a new offense.That bucs cupboard was far from bare though. I’m not even sure what you’re trying to prove here by stating the Broncos going 8-8? If anything, that does not help you’re argument. So the Broncos went 8-8 with Tim Tebow and the Bucs went 7-9 with Winston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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