bucsfan333 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: I'm not disagreeing with anything your saying. He played a good game. Period. The thing I have a issue with is how people have this false belief that Brady is THE reason he has won 7 rings when history indicates his defense, tuck rules and opposing coaches decisions are the reason he has at least 4. I'm just already tired of people pinning "7 ringz" on Brady when he is often the 2nd or 3rd deciding factor in any of those SBs. There's only one common thread throughout Brady's 10 Super Bowl appearance and seven Super Bowl wins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, bucsfan333 said: There's only one common thread throughout Brady's 10 Super Bowl appearance and seven Super Bowl wins. Top 3-5 NFL defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: I'm not disagreeing with anything your saying. He played a good game. Period. The thing I have a issue with is how people have this false belief that Brady is THE reason he has won 7 rings when history indicates his defense, tuck rules and opposing coaches decisions are the reason he has at least 4. I'm just already tired of people pinning "7 ringz" on Brady when he is often the 2nd or 3rd deciding factor in any of those SBs. Its not popular opinion. It just needs to be said. 19 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: The absolute mental gymnastics and mind pretzels that people twist themselves into to try and find reasons to take away from Brady’s greatness is the purest form of entertainment Edited February 8, 2021 by Pats#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: Top 3-5 NFL defenses. Our defense was barely top 10 in every major category this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: The absolute mental gymnastics and mind pretzels that people twist themselves into to try and find reasons to take away from Brady’s greatness is the purest form of entertainment *Rob Parker has entered the chat* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, bucsfan333 said: Our defense was barely top 10 in every major category this season. Well guess what. They were the #1 reason you won a super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, bucsfan333 said: Our defense was barely top 10 in every major category this season. You were #4 in Defensive DVOA if I remember correctly and like #5 Offense. Saints and Bucs were the first two teams to finish Top 5 in both since the 2017 Eagles. Your guy's front seven + Brady were the two main reasons I picked the Bucs in this game. And that's in no way to discredit Brady. He is the GOAT and earned this Championship 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: Well guess what. They were the #1 reason you won a super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Rider Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 So what is the excuse for Tom being #1 all time in TDs and #2 all time in yards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Well guess what. They were the #1 reason you won a super bowl. I admire the commitment involved here, at the very least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvadorsDeli Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: How many of those was because of Tom Brady being great. Because he played like Alex Smith tonight and won a superbowl on the back of his defense....much like his first 3 rings in New England I know its the most anti-intellectual argument to make but it seems like people actually discount wins and losses when it comes to QB's. They really do actually matter. Like, does anyone actually believe the Bucs win the Super Bowl this year with Matt Stafford or whoever at QB? Edited February 8, 2021 by SalvadorsDeli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Well guess what. They were the #1 reason you won a super bowl. 21/29 201 yards 3 TDs Clearly the only reason we won the Super Bowl is because of the defense. Never would we have had a chance without them. Brady was such a hinderance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I get it, I guess. Hating Brady is - for most NFL fans - step one. It's like a rite of passage. But I feel like there needs to be at least some common sense involved if you wanna try to take him down a peg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plat2 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaguarfan said: I admire the commitment involved here, at the very least Dudes got nothing better to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, bucsfan333 said: I get it, I guess. Hating Brady is - for most NFL fans - step one. It's like a rite of passage. But I feel like there needs to be at least some common sense involved if you wanna try to take him down a peg. Yeah, if you're going to discount Tom Brady's greatness, might as well make it for a good reason: he might get injured Edited February 8, 2021 by Jaguarfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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