Ty21 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Purely curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damikeeeee Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Sucked until we were down 3 scores and benefited from prevent D to even keep a job. The trade wasn't bad but when we resigned him it was a decision that set the franchise back 5 years. Good in Madden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Ruined by this QB-murdering franchise. Worst thing that ever happened to him in his career was being traded to Chicago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 He was a great Packer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 He's an arrogant prick and if you ask most former Bears, especially the defensive guys they would have told you that. I recently saw a video of Devin Hester being interviewed and he said the same thing pretty much. I'll admit thought that he wasn't really given a great supporting cast for most of his time here, and could have ultimately been better had management done a better job of adding offensive talent around him, but he also had his opportunities too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I met Jay once. He took a photo with me but said nothing to me at all. I think if he stayed healthy in 2010 and 2011 they win 1 Super Bowl. I think he got f***ed when they invested nothing into him as a QB by trading away Olsen and giving him nothing on the OL until 3-4 years in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 You know when Muhsin Muhammad said Chicago is where receivers go to die, I think he misspoke and meant to say Chicago is where QBs go to die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Talented but pig-headed and not a natural leader. With a better franchise he may have had a ton of success, but he couldn't elevate the parts around him. Chicago basically sabotaged him for years before he was just done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 To inconsistent to win a ring, and a perfect example of what happens when you try and force a non elite qb, sub par running game, weak Oline, and a declining defense together..... Mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSLCF04 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Love the guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Sugashane said: Talented but pig-headed and not a natural leader. With a better franchise he may have had a ton of success, but he couldn't elevate the parts around him. Chicago basically sabotaged him for years before he was just done. He never would have had "a ton of success". Let's keep it real. 36 minutes ago, DABEARSLCF04 said: Love the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 12 hours ago, vegas492 said: He was a great Packer. Deangelo Hall appreciated him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 11 hours ago, topwop1 said: I'll admit thought that he wasn't really given a great supporting cast He had a great supporting cast in Denver and still made the same mistakes as he did here. He was never a good QB. But Bears fans looked at his stat sheet of 4,000 yards and went hay wire like it was a new years parade. This is why I was one of the very few people on this site at the time that kept telling you guys to stop overrating him and being prisoners of the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The Bears never ruined his career. He was overrated by fans and the media. He came to Chicago with flaws and never learned to correct them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Heinz D. said: He never would have had "a ton of success". Let's keep it real. Ton of success doesnt mean HoF. Averaging 25 TDs and 4000 yards isn't out of the question with a good cast, and that's better than any QB we've seen in Chicago. Do that for 8-10 years and yes, that will win a lot of games and he'd be top 20 in passing TDs and yards. I'd say that's a lot of success to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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