Woz Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, taylor made said: 10 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Source that he’s on trade block? JLC, fwiw Oh, in that case, Michael, how much would you give for that information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, aceinthehouse said: Not saying Haskins & a 4th would do it. But I bet I'm not too far off. I'd like to take the opposite on that action, if you please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, MKnight82 said: 7 hours ago, offbyone said: I am sure if someone wants him they are salivating because if you look at Rivera's moves at GM, he has shown his willingness to cut bait and move on for nothing or close to nothing. Example? Quinton Dunbar? (I took out Trent and Sean Davis since you already addressed them) Edited October 12, 2020 by Woz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, MKnight82 said: I actually think we got a really good return for Williams considering he sat out of football for the year. Rivera also had nothing to do with the souring of that relationship. Sean Davis sucks no one was trading for him. Peterson is a dinosaur no one was trading for him. We got ripped off for Trent Williams because they continued holding onto him even after Rivera got hired and drug it out until the draft. Rivera couldn’t be bothered to talk to Trent for like the first three months he had the job and most likely could’ve had Trent back. Basically gave away Dunbar and then flat out cut the teams best RB a week before the season started. He totally buggered the off-season, like really badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) I don’t even know what to believe, part of me does really believe Rivera is done with him, believes the the lockeroom story it true and wants to trade him. Part of me believes Ron said that in a moment of rage and has since talked to Dwayne and calmed down after a week of thinking on it. If Allen is awful I can see Rivera going back to Dwayne in December. Hopefully Dwayne plays better and they can then trade him for a late first or 2nd or have him compete with Allen to be the starter in 2021. Edited October 12, 2020 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Whatever happens, I hope they don't sit on their hands for the whole season to make a decision. If you're going to trade him, it needs to be done by the bye week at the latest. Otherwise, this off the field social media crap is going to continue all season. Rosen was traded for a 2nd & 5th. Keep that in mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 This team will never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 hours ago, lavar703 said: We got ripped off for Trent Williams because they continued holding onto him even after Rivera got hired and drug it out until the draft. Rivera couldn’t be bothered to talk to Trent for like the first three months he had the job and most likely could’ve had Trent back. Basically gave away Dunbar and then flat out cut the teams best RB a week before the season started. He totally buggered the off-season, like really badly. Taking the offseason off in order to evaluate is looking pretty darn bone headed given the fact that even now the division is up for grabs. Several players would have made a difference. It still could. Not much out there for WR/TE but why we don't have donald penn on the phone is beyond me. 15 hours ago, turtle28 said: If Allen is awful I can see Rivera going back to Dwayne in December. Hopefully Dwayne plays better and they can’t them trade him for a late first or 2nd or have him compete with Allen to be the starter in 2021. This next week could be interesting. If we lose to the giants and qb play is among the reasons, I don't know how Rivera doesn't go back to Haskins immediately. Waiting to december would be criminal. There is no chance in hell we are getting a 1st or 2nd round pick for haskins. We have destroyed his value. We attacked his character publicly 2 years in a row and as a football player he may have flashed but he has not showed enough. A team that trades for Haskins will look at him as a pure project. You don't invest that kind of juice into a project who already has a pricey contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublez Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 hours ago, lavar703 said: We got ripped off for Trent Williams because they continued holding onto him even after Rivera got hired and drug it out until the draft. Rivera couldn’t be bothered to talk to Trent for like the first three months he had the job and most likely could’ve had Trent back. Basically gave away Dunbar and then flat out cut the teams best RB a week before the season started. He totally buggered the off-season, like really badly. I mean - your not wrong. The more that unfolds, the more I am buying into your criticisms of this coaching staff (we are still worlds apart on Haskins, though I obviously respect your position). Everything is just so counteractive at this point. I was sitting back thinking, "Year 1 of a rebuild, who really cares what happens.... Ron has the right approach - maybe I will take the wife to Hawaii in April/May for an honorary honeymoon with [INSERT preferred QB]." And then I watched his press conference on Wednesday..... It is really confusing and I just cant believe the lack of direction with any decision... and I mean any decision whatsoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, aceinthehouse said: Whatever happens, I hope they don't sit on their hands for the whole season to make a decision. If you're going to trade him, it needs to be done by the bye week at the latest. Otherwise, this off the field social media crap is going to continue all season. Rosen was traded for a 2nd & 5th. Keep that in mind... Yeah, but as we usually do we’ve slandered Haskins in the press which hurts the value that he had. I’d hope he’d go for that but maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Truth be told... If it's true that Haskins has this entitlement attitude, then I want him traded yesterday. And I have no reason NOT to believe it, with his cell phone selfies he took last season. I mean, I didn't like Cousins attitude throughout the process. But this is even worse. Why can't we get a QB that's like Peyton Manning? Says all the right things, does all the right things & very likeable. Everyone loves Alex Smith, which is great. Unfortunately, He's probably not the future here. Until we get our QB, gentleman? It isn't gonna matter how good, the rest of the pieces are on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: Truth be told... If it's true that Haskins has this entitlement attitude, then I want him traded yesterday. And I have no reason NOT to believe it, with his cell phone selfies he took last season. I mean, I didn't like Cousins attitude throughout the process. But this is even worse. Why can't we get a QB that's like Peyton Manning? Says all the right things, does all the right things & very likeable. Everyone loves Alex Smith, which is great. Unfortunately, He's probably not the future here. Until we get our QB, gentleman? It isn't gonna matter how good, the rest of the pieces are on this team. Peyton Manning’s, Tom Brady’s & Drew Brees’s don’t grown on trees. They come around a few times in a generation. Let’s take Rodgers & Big Ben, they’re great qbs but they’ve been jerks at some point through their 15/16 year careers. No one cares that Mahomes & Watson do all these antics bc they win. What attitude did Kirk have other than he had no love lost for Bruce & Dan and wanted out? I think if Dan would’ve chose McCloughan over Bruce, I think Cousins re-signs in 2017. Edited October 12, 2020 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: Truth be told... If it's true that Haskins has this entitlement attitude, then I want him traded yesterday. And I have no reason NOT to believe it, with his cell phone selfies he took last season. I mean, I didn't like Cousins attitude throughout the process. But this is even worse. Why can't we get a QB that's like Peyton Manning? Says all the right things, does all the right things & very likeable. Everyone loves Alex Smith, which is great. Unfortunately, He's probably not the future here. Until we get our QB, gentleman? It isn't gonna matter how good, the rest of the pieces are on this team. Tua says Hi If you end up with Trevor Lawrence it'll all be worth it Throw a bag at Dak if the Cowboys don't tag him coming off an injury. Take your time with him and let him continue to rehab in 2021 and come out guns blazing in 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, TheGame316 said: Tua says Hi If you end up with Trevor Lawrence it'll all be worth it Throw a bag at Dak if the Cowboys don't tag him coming off an injury. Take your time with him and let him continue to rehab in 2021 and come out guns blazing in 2022 Tua was coming off a dislocated hip, huge risk. If not for that we may have taken him over chase and traded Haskins for a mid round pick or maybe traded Haskins for Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Tua was coming off a dislocated hip, huge risk. If not for that we may have taken him over chase and traded Haskins for a mid round pick or maybe traded Haskins for Allen. Agreed with the huge risk part, but I think the "We just drafted Haskins" affected that decision also But If you write off this season and end up with Lawrence it will all be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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