nextsuperstar1 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Brady's foot speed is his weakness. While he is mobile in the pocket and has great pocket awareness, his slowness hurts him at time. For example, if his receivers are covered he cannot be expected to pick up 4 or 5 yards for a first down, even if there is a clear path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus mode Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 11:04 AM, TheKillerNacho said: They might get hurt. That just makes them overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Suspense Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Rodgers: holds onto the ball too long, play drops in the playoffs, treats teammates and family like **** off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biletnikoff Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Women and money. -the end- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat1080 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/6/2017 at 4:11 PM, tribar said: Rodgers: holds onto the ball too long, play drops in the playoffs, treats teammates and family like **** off the field. That just isn't true at all. He has 36 TDs and 10 INTs in 16 playoff starts with a 99.4 passer rating. That is exactly a seasons worth of games and frankly those are MVP level numbers. Peyton Manning played in 11 more playoff games than Rodgers and only threw 4 more TDs and 2.5x as many INTs. I really get tired of hearing this garbage. Peyton Manning, yeah his play definitely dropped in the playoffs. Rodgers not so much. Rodgers gets criticized for being 9-7 in the playoffs but in those 7 losses his defense gave up at least 37 points in 4 of those and in the other three he watched on the sideline as the defense allowed the game winning drive and he never possessed the ball again. Two of those games were in OT and the opposing team got the ball and scored a TD. There is this lazy mentality of some people to just look at the W-L record of a QB in the playoffs and just assume they didn't play well. Has he had a few subpar games. Of course but there isn't a QB in NFL history that didn't have a few of those. To your point about him holding onto the ball too long. That is a valid criticism of Rodgers but its a double edged sword. He takes unnecessary sacks at times but then makes amazing plays on a weekly basis by holding onto the ball and extending plays. Believe me if Mike McCarthy didn't think the pros of Aaron Rodgers style of play outweighed the cons he would make Aaron Rodgers correct that. That would be silly though. When you have an athletic QB that can throw accurately on the run you need to find the right balance of pocket/outside the pocket passing. Rodgers is a smart QB and he isn't going to take a sack with the game on the line to knock his team out of field goal range. For example, look at Matt Ryan late in the Super Bowl. That was an inexcusable play. A FG ices the game right there and he took a sack. If he didn't take that sack the Falcons win that game. Can you cite an example where Rodgers holding onto the ball has cost the Packers a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 6:13 PM, DigInBoys said: Marino was criticized for lack of running ability too. He got a lot more serious criticism than that from his new HC Jimmy Johnson, the ex Cowboy HC, who tried to remake his game so Miami could win championships. Johnson wanted to make running the ball a much higher priority for Miami, but Marino would have nothing to do with it. Marino simply changed the play at the line of scrimmage whenever he felt like it, when a running play was called, so he could continue to pass the ball at his previous rate. Johnson said Marino was just too stubborn to make any changes in how Miami played offense and Johnson quite football soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 2:34 PM, MWil23 said: Montana: Injuries, lack of elite arm strength and height Quote Montana was the perfect QB for Bill Walsh's WCO. You do not need a great arm to be a WCO QB as the offense rarely calls for a deep pattern and he had Jerry Rice, whose ability to run after the catch more than made up for receiving shorter passes. On 10/5/2017 at 2:34 PM, MWil23 said: Brady: Solid but not great arm, and aside from Randy Moss in 2007, his passes downfield/completion percentage hasn't been great. Against elite DL's he has shown that he's human. (See: The NYG) Quote Brady's arm strength is fine, the reason only Moss ever took advantage of it was quite simple. BB never wasted his time drafting top notch WR's for NE, he made do with a rather mediocre collection of WR's. If Brady had actually had a couple of star receivers during his career that could go deep, his passing records likely would never be approached for many, many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 For Manning if you disrupt his timing with his receivers he is prone to get flustered and make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaserFocus Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: For Manning if you disrupt his timing with his receivers he is prone to get flustered and make mistakes. You just hit on something with Peyton Manning, I always felt his greatest weakness was getting frustrated in some big games. While Tom Brady was more likely to become angry, and vocal with teammates, Manning was outwardly flustered, and that's not what the club needs in those situations. Just two examples would be the 2003 AFC TG at New England, and the SB versus Seattle. Manning's body language and frustration were so evident in those losses, and the rest of his teammates saw that, too. Manning was such an intense competitor, and really got down on himself on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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