JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Wouldn't it be nice to not have to debate about which of our QBs is worse than the other? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, JAF-N72EX said: Wouldn't it be nice to not have to debate about which of our QBs is worse than the other? Lol. It's not a debate. Mitch is the worse QB. Not sure why top even brought it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: It's not a debate. Mitch is the worse QB. Not sure why top even brought it up. And I agree with him. It obviously is a debate. Your opinion does not mean it's a fact. Edited October 19, 2020 by JAF-N72EX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: And I agree with him. It obviously is a debate. Your opinion does not mean it's a fact. How is it a debate? One can't read defenses. We've been watching Mitch for years. He can't do what Nick Foles with the offense right now. Whether that is acceptable or not is another story. There's nothing statistically or via the eye test that I can point to that's a huge discrepancy right now that points to Mitch being better. Can you? Edited October 19, 2020 by GOGRIESE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: How is it a debate? One can't read defenses. We've been watching Mitch for years. He can't do what Nick Foles with the offense right now. Whether that is acceptable or not is another story. Neither of them are consistent. Neither are good under pressure. Neither are accurate on a consistent basis. Both of them fail to see the field and open targets. Both of them gift wrap INTs. Both of them have 1 good trait that the other lacks. Mitch has his legs and Foles goes through his progressions at higher rate. The bottomline, neither of them are starting caliber QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: Neither of them are consistent. Neither are good under pressure. Neither are accurate on a consistent basis. Both of them fail to see the field and open targets. Both of them gift wrap INTs. Both of them have 1 good trait that the other lacks. Mitch has his legs and Foles goes through his progressions at higher rate. The bottomline, neither of them are starting caliber QBs. And they both have one thing in common: Matt Nagy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: Neither of them are consistent. Neither are good under pressure. Neither are accurate on a consistent basis. Both of them fail to see the field and open targets. Both of them gift wrap INTs. Both of them have 1 good trait that the other lacks. Mitch has his legs and Foles goes through his progressions at higher rate. The bottomline, neither of them are starting caliber QBs. Oh and you left out the important part. One guy can't figure out if its zone vs man. One guy can't figure out why a linebacker dropped into coverage and throws the ball anyway. Wanna guess which one that is? Your bottomline is irrelevant. The point Top was making was the QB play hasn't improved. It flat out has and you see the results. Foles is making enough plays to win the games. See the Atlanta Game for any questions about Mitch and the pick he threw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, GOGRIESE said: Oh and you left out the important part. One guy can't figure out if its zone vs man. One guy can't figure out why a linebacker dropped into coverage and throws the ball anyway. Wanna guess which one that is? Your bottomline is irrelevant. The point Top was making was the QB play hasn't improved. It flat out has and you see the results. Foles is making enough plays to win the games. See the Atlanta Game for any questions about Mitch and the pick he threw. It's not irrelevant. Neither are good starters. Yeah, we see the results..... the offense is still garbage and it looks no different than when Mitch was the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, JAF-N72EX said: It's not irrelevant. Neither are good starters. Yeah, we see the results..... the offense is still garbage and it looks no different than when Mitch was the starter. Yes it is because that's not the original question. Nobody is saying make Nick Foles the starter in 2021. I'll use a earlier reply then to the same answer. Your not paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: 6 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: Your bottomline is irrelevant. The point Top was making was the QB play hasn't improved. It flat out has and you see the results. It's not irrelevant. Neither are good starters. Yeah, we see the results..... the offense is still garbage and it looks no different than when Mitch was the starter. ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: ^^^^ Yeah we see the results...but I'm going to ignore those. Like I said not paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, GOGRIESE said: Yeah we see the results...but I'm going to ignore those. Like I said not paying attention. I'm paying attention close enough to not be delusional about the situation. But hey, Foles is the savior, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, JAF-N72EX said: I'm paying attention close enough to not be delusional about the situation. But hey, Foles is the savior, right? Who said that at all? Do you need the original question repeated to you again? It's a yes or no question. Is the offense better with Nick Foles at QB. Yes. That's all. He's not going to be the QB in 2021. We need to draft one in the first round. Is he all we can hang our hat on right now? Yes. It is what it is. He's made enough plays for us to win games that I can't see anyway Mitch makes. That plain enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, GOGRIESE said: Who said that at all? Do you need the original question repeated to you again? It's a yes or no question. Is the offense better with Nick Foles at QB. Yes. That's all. He's not going to be the QB in 2021. We need to draft one in the first round. Is he all we can hang our hat on right now? Yes. It is what it is. He's made enough plays for us to win games that I can't see anyway Mitch makes. That plain enough? He's not going to be the QB in 2021? Really? The plan is to draft a QB and start him? Doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, dafreak said: He's not going to be the QB in 2021? Really? The plan is to draft a QB and start him? Doubtful. I don't think he is and they should consider it. Doesn't seem to me like there's any point in sitting a QB in today's NFL. Alot of these guys like Herbet or Burrow are ready to go now. All about Pace's evaluation which is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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