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14 minutes ago, ET80 said:

I mean...I won't argue that too much, but CEH fits that KC offense well. He's very similar to Brian Westbrook, a guy Andy Reid had great success with.

He wasn't the best RB available, but he WAS the best RB for KC - if that makes sense.

This is fairly accurate. He fits the system and what we want to do. I would argue though that there were better options.

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48 minutes ago, ET80 said:

I mean...I won't argue that too much, but CEH fits that KC offense well. He's very similar to Brian Westbrook, a guy Andy Reid had great success with.

He wasn't the best RB available, but he WAS the best RB for KC - if that makes sense.

Some little RBs can run effectively between the tackles, and some never make that transition. It remains to be seen if CEH can learn to do it. 

Thus far, in terms of rushing efficiency, CEH is 32 out of 35 qualified RBs according to DVOA. That's with the defenses all geared to stop the passing game. 

If he's not a threat to take a handoff up the middle, then his usefulness to any offense has a very low ceiling, unless he's used as a 3rd down back. 

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On 10/16/2020 at 8:25 AM, SteelKing728 said:

This is wrong though. Odds are probably GB first, Seattle then KC.

1) This is very debatable.

2) I just checked my sportsbook and KC has the best odds to win the super bowl at the moment (followed by: BAL, SEA, GB in that order)

3) I realize he said "team with the best odds to win it all" but I don't feel like that's the point he was getting at (ie: literally the best odds of all 32 teams). KC in your view still a top 3 contender and the top contender in the AFC, so still fits the 'old/washed veteran player chasing his last chance to win a ring instead of money or playing time' sentiment (although I don't think Bell is old or washed). The OP can feel free to correct me here, though -- I'm just interpreting his post differently than you.

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The money argument is a moot point. The Jet's pay the difference regardless 

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1 hour ago, AngusMcFife said:

Some little RBs can run effectively between the tackles, and some never make that transition. It remains to be seen if CEH can learn to do it. 

Thus far, in terms of rushing efficiency, CEH is 32 out of 35 qualified RBs according to DVOA. That's with the defenses all geared to stop the passing game. 

If he's not a threat to take a handoff up the middle, then his usefulness to any offense has a very low ceiling, unless he's used as a 3rd down back. 

While I don’t think it will ever be a strength for him,   Should probably also account  what the Chiefs line up at LG-C-RG.   Remmers, Reiter, and Wylie has to be in the bottom tier of IOL play.   None of them are awful, but not exactly road graders sitting in from of him.   He did have quite a bit of success running behind Osemele early in the year.

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On 10/16/2020 at 7:26 AM, SteelKing728 said:

I loved Bienemy in Minnesota. He used Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor perfectly. He'll be a great HC someday.

I think he will too. I think he'll be better than Nagy and Pederson. He seems like a perfect head coach to me, providing pretty much everything you would want. I don't think he'll be perfect from day one, but if an organization makes it clear they have his back he will take them very very far. Really hoping we keep him in KC for the next 10 years though.

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3 hours ago, AngusMcFife said:

The fact that CEH was picked before Swift, Taylor, and Dobbins is just silly. 

No way those dudes are better than Clyde. Clyde has a higher YPC than the first two in spite of abysmal OL play and Dobbins has almost no touches so I'm not counting him yet.

It's easy to overlook Clyde because of his shorter size but his hand size is bigger than all of those dudes and he was without question the most naturally gifted RB in the draft class.

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5 minutes ago, Kirill said:

I think he will too. I think he'll be better than Nagy and Pederson. He seems like a perfect head coach to me, providing pretty much everything you would want. I don't think he'll be perfect from day one, but if an organization makes it clear they have his back he will take them very very far. Really hoping we keep him in KC for the next 10 years though.

0% chance of that happening

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Just now, Kirill said:

No way those dudes are better than Clyde. Clyde has a higher YPC than the first two in spite of abysmal OL play and Dobbins has almost no touches so I'm not counting him yet.

It's easy to overlook Clyde because of his shorter size but his hand size is bigger than all of those dudes and he was without question the most naturally gifted RB in the draft class.

I’d say Antonio Gibson is more naturally gifted 

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2 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

0% chance of that happening

I know, it's just that guys like him aren't always given a fair shake once they get the job or the job offer he get could be for a totally trash team. I say stay in KC make a little less but enjoy the ride and stack some rings. This is a once in a lifetime gig he's got.

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3 minutes ago, Kirill said:

No way those dudes are better than Clyde. Clyde has a higher YPC than the first two in spite of abysmal OL play and Dobbins has almost no touches so I'm not counting him yet.

It's easy to overlook Clyde because of his shorter size but his hand size is bigger than all of those dudes and he was without question the most naturally gifted RB in the draft class.

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The Chiefs? Abysmal OL play? Not sure if you know what that actually looks like, then lol

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1 minute ago, Kirill said:

I know, it's just that guys like him aren't always given a fair shake once they get the job or the job offer he get could be for a totally trash team. I say stay in KC make a little less but enjoy the ride and stack some rings. This is a once in a lifetime gig he's got.

If you are going to go on a Mahomes fueled Patriot like run, expect to jettison many coordinators. BB even stopped naming coordinators and those dudes still got HC jobs (BOB, Flores, Patricia)

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1 hour ago, samsel23 said:

While I don’t think it will ever be a strength for him,   Should probably also account  what the Chiefs line up at LG-C-RG.   Remmers, Reiter, and Wylie has to be in the bottom tier of IOL play.   None of them are awful, but not exactly road graders sitting in from of him.   He did have quite a bit of success running behind Osemele early in the year.

We need to draft literally all offensive line next year. First three picks should all be interior line BPA and then the remaining just BPA OL inside or out. I know it sounds absurd but this is the only rational thing to do with Mahomes on a baseball style contract.

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11 minutes ago, Kirill said:

No way those dudes are better than Clyde. Clyde has a higher YPC than the first two in spite of abysmal OL play and Dobbins has almost no touches so I'm not counting him yet.

It's easy to overlook Clyde because of his shorter size but his hand size is bigger than all of those dudes and he was without question the most naturally gifted RB in the draft class.

LOL hand size don't help you when getting tackled by 320 lbs defensive lineman.

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