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57 minutes ago, -Hope- said:

if bowen still has a job with this team next year....

 

Unfortunately, I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't.

 

Not even exaggerating...I think it's more likely that I'm the back-up QB next year than Bowen getting fired/let go. And I cannot scramble like I used to.

 

I think it's more likely he gets promoted to DC than fired. He is Vrabel's BOY.

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24 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said:

Unfortunately, I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't.

 

Not even exaggerating...I think it's more likely that I'm the back-up QB next year than Bowen getting fired/let go. And I cannot scramble like I used to.

 

I think it's more likely he gets promoted to DC than fired. He is Vrabel's BOY.

if that's the case, i'm ready to say vrabel will never win a super bowl.

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2 minutes ago, -Hope- said:

if that's the case, i'm ready to say vrabel will never win a super bowl.

I really, really, really hope he doesn't fall down the same path that Mularkey did

You can't assemble a staff with your drinking buddies and win a super bowl. You need to assemble a staff with actual coaches.

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I'm not trying to totally s--- on Bowen, but how does THIS resume get you to a DC role by age 34? Unless, of course, nepotism kicks in.

Georgia Tech (2009)
Student Assistant

Georgia Tech (2010-2011)
Offensive Graduate Assistant

Ohio State (2012)
Defensive Graduate Assistant

Kennesaw State (2013-2015)
Linebackers coach

Houston Texans (2016–2017)
Defensive Assistant

Tennessee Titans (2018–present)
Outside Linebackers coach

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1 hour ago, deeluxx3 said:

I'm not trying to totally s--- on Bowen, but how does THIS resume get you to a DC role by age 34? Unless, of course, nepotism kicks in.

Georgia Tech (2009)
Student Assistant

Georgia Tech (2010-2011)
Offensive Graduate Assistant

Ohio State (2012)
Defensive Graduate Assistant

Kennesaw State (2013-2015)
Linebackers coach

Houston Texans (2016–2017)
Defensive Assistant

Tennessee Titans (2018–present)
Outside Linebackers coach

Arthur didn't have that much of a resume himself when he got the promotion. Because like Bowen, it's not an outside hire, but a promotion, and it was clearly not done on resume. That being said, I am a little skeptical too.

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6 minutes ago, Andrei01 said:

Arthur didn't have that much of a resume himself when he got the promotion. Because like Bowen, it's not an outside hire, but a promotion, and it was clearly not done on resume. That being said, I am a little skeptical too.

Art had about ten years of NFL experience 

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To be fair, this was Brandon Staley’s resume before leading the Rams this season to being one of, if not, the best defense in the NFL.

St. Thomas (MN) (2009)
Defensive line coach/special teams coach

Hutchinson CC (2010–2011)

St. Thomas (MN) (2009)
Defensive line coach/special teams coach

Hutchinson CC (2010–2011)
Associate head coach/defensive coordinator

Tennessee (2012)
Graduate assistant

John Carroll University (2013)
Defensive coordinator/secondary coach

James Madison (2014)
Defensive coordinator/linebackers coach

John Carroll University (2015–2016)
Defensive coordinator/secondary coach

Chicago Bears (2017–2018)
Outside linebackers coach

Denver Broncos (2019)
Outside linebackers coach

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58 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said:

Art had about ten years of NFL experience 

But none as a play caller, and Bowen has 5. That's not ten years, but it's definitely not nothing. People have earned coordinator jobs with less in the past, and some have worked out alright.

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Bowen is probably a "smart guy."

I am by no means taking up for him, but sometimes you have the right call but the guys just fail to execute. Like when you double Davonte Adams and both guys let him go by him. lol

Not the DC fault if nobody can rush the passer. 

DC fault is that players at times seemed to have no idea what they were doing. 

lol

I bet Bowen is back as DC. lol

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i couldn't give a rat's *** about bowen's resume. vrabel himself had an awfully light one as a coach before getting hired here. i care that the defense he runs is in shambles.

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1 hour ago, KingTitan said:

Bowen is probably a "smart guy."

I am by no means taking up for him, but sometimes you have the right call but the guys just fail to execute. Like when you double Davonte Adams and both guys let him go by him. lol

Not the DC fault if nobody can rush the passer. 

DC fault is that players at times seemed to have no idea what they were doing. 

lol

I bet Bowen is back as DC. lol

I wouldn’t be shocked that he is

I always use Byard as the example 

I get people have down years but man Bowen turned him into Jonathan Joseph 

One of the Browns TDs they gave up early had me worried about Byard, Butler passes his man off because it’s zone Byard makes a beak on an invisible guy and just looked like he was thinking and not playing and seemed like he did that a lot this year 

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1 hour ago, Daniel said:

A Bowen promotion would give me very little faith in Vrabel’s ability to learn from his mistakes.

We need improvement, not a shuffle.

A Bowen promotion might be fine if we hire a new OLB coach who can focus solely on being a position coach and Bowen can focus solely on being DC.

I wouldn't love it, but it would be better than what we had going on this year. Of course our defense was so bad it would also be hard to be any worse... 🤷‍♂️

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