CWood21 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: The Allen hate was literally over whelming, even worse than the Love hate. I was one of them. And I was wrong. Allen is a bad dude. Yup. And Josh Allen bucked about a dozen different trends. Have to give credit to the Bills on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, CWood21 said: Yup. And Josh Allen bucked about a dozen different trends. Have to give credit to the Bills on that one. I'm curious if Dorsey gets OC looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Forge said: I'm curious if Dorsey gets OC looks I would assume the Bills would block it, especially if teams sniff around Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: I would assume the Bills would block it, especially if teams sniff around Daboll. Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Forge said: Good point Unfortunately, it's considered a lateral move which is something the NFL needs to fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Jeezla said: What's everyone top 5 QB's if the draft was next week? 1 Zach Wilson 2 Justin Fields 3 Trevor Lawrence (Way too ugly in the face to be a true franchise QB, imo) 4 Trey Lance 5 Kyle Trask/Mac Jones In terms of where I think they will be drafted: Lawrence Fields Wilson Lance Ridder In regards to who will be the best 5 QB's from the class: Wilson Lawrence Fields Ridder Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, tyler735 said: In terms of where I think they will be drafted: Lawrence Fields Wilson Lance Ridder In regards to who will be the best 5 QB's from the class: Wilson Lawrence Fields Ridder Lance I don’t see how Lance can end up as the 5th best QB of the class. He’s boom or bust like Allen and Love. Lance will either be the best or second best QB from this class, Top 5-7 QB in the NFL, or a complete 100% utter bust. It is the same for Love. And it was the same for Allen. Allen was either gonna be a Top 5-6 QB, or a huge epic total 100% bust that is not even backup level. Turns out Allen might of just proven he is that Top 5-6 QB.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I don’t see how Lance can end up as the 5th best QB of the class. He’s boom or bust like Allen and Love. Lance will either be the best or second best QB from this class, Top 5-7 QB in the NFL, or a complete 100% utter bust. It is the same for Love. And it was the same for Allen. Allen was either gonna be a Top 5-6 QB, or a huge epic total 100% bust that is not even backup level. Turns out Allen might of just proven he is that Top 5-6 QB.... I think Lance will be one of those QB's that has some success early on with his athletic ability also making some nice throws here and there, but flames out when he doesn't develop as a passer. I think 5th best is about right for him, but could drop to 6th or 7th, with Jones and Trask maybe surpassing his success, but I'm not that high on either of them. Edited January 3, 2021 by tyler735 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I don’t see how Lance can end up as the 5th best QB of the class. He’s boom or bust like Allen and Love. Lance will either be the best or second best QB from this class, Top 5-7 QB in the NFL, or a complete 100% utter bust. It is the same for Love. And it was the same for Allen. Allen was either gonna be a Top 5-6 QB, or a huge epic total 100% bust that is not even backup level. Turns out Allen might of just proven he is that Top 5-6 QB.... I don't know...I could see him carve out a similar (though longer) career to Kaep. Is that boom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Forge said: I don't know...I could see him carve out a similar (though longer) career to Kaep. Is that boom? Depends on where he gets drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Forge said: I don't know...I could see him carve out a similar (though longer) career to Kaep. Is that boom? I never really saw Kaep as a boom or bust type like the three I mentioned. Never thought he’d be a Top 5-7 QB nor did I think he would completely suck. At least a low level starter/good backup/good gadget guy with potential to be as high at 9-11 QB Range. Edited January 3, 2021 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2020 at 1:59 PM, BayRaider said: We’re not talking about how they tried to make sense of it. The fact that they were investigating “friends did not attend birthday parties” was ludicrous to begin with. There are many many other ways they could of made his leadership and/or character look suspect. It was lazy writing. Connor Cook. Edit: apparently I haven't opened this thread in a few days and this was a recent post for me, my bad for a necro post when the conversation likely has moved on. I'm going to edit this with some worthless comps that people can scroll by so it's more relevant Trevor Lawrence: Deshaun Watson + Aaron Rodgers + Andrew Luck = defining traits of mobility, football iq and deep shot threats Justin Fields: Dak Prescott + Carson Wentz + Derek Carr = defining traits of MVP contender upside, mobility (probably better than the listed ones, but if they didnt have 100mil deals on the line Im sure they could make some of those runs if they needed to), some of Wentz occasional wide throwing base Zach Wilson: Johnny Manziel + Tony Romo + Russell Wilson = defining traits of escape ability, improvising and wow throws Trey Lance: Colin Kaepernick + Ryan Tannehill + Kyler Murrary = defining traits of game changing athleticism, infinite upside, and needing the right system to develop in Keep scroll I know I'm not good at this. Edited January 3, 2021 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 hours ago, CWood21 said: Unfortunately, it's considered a lateral move which is something the NFL needs to fix. Agreed 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 12 hours ago, CWood21 said: I would assume the Bills would block it, especially if teams sniff around Daboll. From this year on i believe it changed to if someone gets the playcalling you can't block it. No idea how they will check it and what happens when that gets revoked one week into the season. https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-can-no-longer-block-assistant-coaches-from-interviewing-for-coordinator-positions-191317600.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 13 hours ago, CWood21 said: Unfortunately, it's considered a lateral move which is something the NFL needs to fix. I thought the NFL got rid of that rule last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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