seminoles1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, stl4life07 said: He is clutch, he is one of the best guards in regards of scoring, he can get his shot anywhere and unstoppable when he wants to get to the paint. Need I go on?? Whats sad is people forget that because of the perception that Kyrie killed Boston and that the Nets were actually a better team without him. The Cavs wouldnt have that championship over the Warriors if Kyrie didnt hit that big shot over Steph. It wasnt LeBron it was Kyrie. Yeah, good point. I'm sure everyone has forgotten who made one of the most famous shots in NBA history. All you talked about was scoring. He's an elite shotmaker, but give me something more if you want to be considered a top 10 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Yeah, good point. I'm sure everyone has forgotten who made one of the most famous shots in NBA history. All you talked about was scoring. He's an elite shotmaker, but give me something more if you want to be considered a top 10 player. An elite shotmaker who makes everyone else around him worse and struggles to lead teams to anything productive as the #1 option. No thanks. It is well documented that I've hated Kyrie since well before Boston, but the fact that this man still has fans is mind boggling. Yall must really like occasional highlight plays 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Yeah, good point. I'm sure everyone has forgotten who made one of the most famous shots in NBA history. All you talked about was scoring. He's an elite shotmaker, but give me something more if you want to be considered a top 10 player. Well as we saw in the NBA this season that’s what you need. Look at how the Rockets fail because they couldn’t depend on Westbrook as the second option. The Clippers couldn’t depend on George as the second option. The Bucks couldn’t depend on Middleton as the second option. The Heat and Raptors legit had no second option. So Kyrie with KD him being an elite shot maker is everything. The only knock anyone can have on Kyrie is injury issues. I would say defense but not many guys actually play defense these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, stl4life07 said: Well as we saw in the NBA this season that’s what you need. Look at how the Rockets fail because they couldn’t depend on Westbrook as the second option. The Clippers couldn’t depend on George as the second option. The Bucks couldn’t depend on Middleton as the second option. The Heat and Raptors legit had no second option. So Kyrie with KD him being an elite shot maker is everything. The only knock anyone can have on Kyrie is injury issues. I would say defense but not many guys actually play defense these days. and no one is calling westbrook, george or middleton top ten players lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1. LeBron James 2. Giannis Antetokounmpo 3. Kawhi Leonard 4. Steph Curry 5. James Harden 6. Luka Doncic 7. Nikola Jokic 8. Anthony Davis 9. Jimmy Butler 10. Damian Lillard I can't rate Durant. I don't think he's going to come back 100%. Embiid when motivated is on there but he's not consistent with that at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: 1. LeBron James 2. Giannis Antetokounmpo 3. Kawhi Leonard 4. Steph Curry 5. James Harden 6. Luka Doncic 7. Nikola Jokic 8. Anthony Davis 9. Jimmy Butler 10. Damian Lillard I can't rate Durant. I don't think he's going to come back 100%. Embiid when motivated is on there but he's not consistent with that at all. I'm taking Lillard and Butler over Davis but agreed elsewhere on this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Troy Brown said: I'm taking Lillard and Butler over Davis but agreed elsewhere on this list I'd consider Butler on the right team. I think Davis provides too many matchup problems on offense and is too impactful defensively to swap with Lillard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, stl4life07 said: Well as we saw in the NBA this season that’s what you need. Look at how the Rockets fail because they couldn’t depend on Westbrook as the second option. The Clippers couldn’t depend on George as the second option. The Bucks couldn’t depend on Middleton as the second option. The Heat and Raptors legit had no second option. So Kyrie with KD him being an elite shot maker is everything. The only knock anyone can have on Kyrie is injury issues. I would say defense but not many guys actually play defense these days. So he's a top 10 player because he's a great 2nd option so all he has to worry about is scoring in close playoff games? That's all I took away from your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) kyrie as a top 10 guy is just indefensible lol. no freakin chance. and i love watching the dude play I like @Bullet Club's list - I think we have a pretty set top 2 tiers. for me: Tier 1A LeBron James Tier 1B Kevin Durant Steph Curry Kawhi Leonard Tier 1C Giannis Antetokounmpo (i'll take one good playoff series win...sorry) James Harden Tier 2 Nikola Jokic Anthony Davis Luka Doncic And then the next tier is a few guys. I'd probably have Dame first up and therefore #10 Edited October 26, 2020 by champ11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. I will not comment on these rankings. The dropping of Giannis down lists has gone way too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Bullet Club said: The dropping of Giannis down lists has gone way too far. considering he's still top 5 or 6 on everyone's I would say it's not too dramatic considering the playoff collapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 i'm actually surprised more people don't have AD over Giannis etc. AD can't be a first offensive option but he did pretty much create a championship level defense as the guy. he's probably underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, champ11 said: considering he's still top 5 or 6 on everyone's I would say it's not too dramatic considering the playoff collapse People are putting too much stock into small samples. LeBron didn't win a title until he was 27 and I don't think anyone had any problems putting him at #1 or #2 in the league before then. Giannis is accomplished similar success as LeBron had by age 25 except making it to the Finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, champ11 said: i'm actually surprised more people don't have AD over Giannis etc. AD can't be a first offensive option but he did pretty much create a championship level defense as the guy. he's probably underrated. Oh give me a ******* break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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