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48 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said:

Can all you guys just say no so we can continue to fly up under the radar? Thanks.....

To be fair, y'all haven't beaten a worthy team yet outside of the Colts and even their wins are against crap teams, so you'll def be flying under the radar until proven otherwise. 

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5 minutes ago, WizeGuy said:

To be fair, y'all haven't beaten a worthy team yet outside of the Colts and even their wins are against crap teams, so you'll def be flying under the radar until proven otherwise. 

Oh ok, cool. Wise take....

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They're middling.  Better than the bad teams, not quite up to the level of the good teams.  They're good enough to reach the postseason, if they can keep it together, but probably get washed in the WC round. 

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bad good team. Their OL is very, very good, Garrett is elite and Baker can be good at times. If Baker could be consistent, they would be a very good team but yeah, he isn't

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If their defense was even average, they’d be good just because of how dominant their running game is. They’re a matchup problem for a few teams just based off of ball control and time of possession. 

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3 hours ago, MWil23 said:

Soft

That image has been posted and not removed on our subforum multiple times. :)

Haha point taken!

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2 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said:

Oh ok, cool. Wise take....

Ahem, wize...

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Browns are an above average team. They are talented, especially in the trenches. QB play is inconsistent and that shows up in their worst outings. I think it's definitely more probable than not that they make the playoffs with the expanded field.

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I think the Browns can beat or lose to any team left on their schedule. The Ravens/Steelers are clearly better but not by the margin they won by. I think both games going forward will be closer. Gotta fix the defense to stand a real chance though. They have been committing to stop the run all year by playing 9 in the box and having Sendejo trying to get back to play centerfield and he doesn't have that ability.

I think there will be adjustments on defense and it will go from awful to below average. May be wishful thinking but eventually they have to adjust and let teams run on them and stop someone from scoring 30 points.

Offensively is a wait and see. Once Chubb gets back we'll be a force on the ground again and Baker won't see a 5 TD game but hopefully he took a step forward with just hitting the open man/best matchup instead of trying to feed certain receivers.

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not reading any previous posts, I feel like they are an evolving team, probably a good mediocre team right now. They're trending up but I feel like Baker Mayfield is looking like a bit of a liability, just from watching some of the previous games. Him figuring it out will ultimately decide how far this team goes but I'm starting to lean towards them looking at a different QB in maybe a year or two

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They'll no doubt put up 30+ points vs. the Raiders next weekend. It'll be a shootout where they could easily be 6-2.

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They are better than the bad teams and some good teams but they aren’t as good as the top dog teams in the league. 

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Haven't decided yet. Their games against the Raiders and Titans should be very illuminating.

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They need linebackers and anyone other than #23 and Redwine at safety on defense. Offensively, it seems to be all in their heads. 

MC

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from what I have seen the Browns can be good when Mayfield get really good pass protection and the OL is healthy and can run. Once either of those are in danger, then the Browns have problems.  I still expect them to be near .500 depending on the health of the team, but if good means making the playoffs and winning a few games in the playoffs, the Browns would need to be really healthy and playing their best. 

The main problem I noticed is that Mayfield doesn't respond that well to getting hit or pressure and the better teams will bring all this. Good teams find a way to deal with it and win. 

AFC speaking  

Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, Titans  are what I would consider 'good' teams in the AFC right now.  Browns would be the tier under that but if the get healthy and Chubb returns I expect more from them. Odell is a loss though, not sure how the team will be after that. 

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