minutemancl Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, GMENNATION said: The Giants would free up about $6mil by cutting Solder. They'll have to spend at least $4mil to find a remotely suitable alternative in FA, if not the full $6mil or more. So cut Solder and re-sign someone else. Cap hit: ~$14mil ($10mil in dead cap, $4mil for replacement). Even if you go post-June 1st the cap hit would be around $10.5mil ($6.5mil in dead cap, $4mil for replacement AND kicking $10mil in dead cap into 2022). If they can get Solder to agree to ~$12.5mil for 2021, I would take it. Yes, it's a lot for what he's produced. But it's only $2mil higher than what we would have to pay to replace him. And there's no guarantee his replacement would be any better. And I'd rather not add $10mil in dead cap to 2022 if we don't have to. We can save $10 million if we designate him as a post June 2nd cut. He needs to take a pay cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMENNATION Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 18 hours ago, minutemancl said: We can save $10 million if we designate him as a post June 2nd cut. He needs to take a pay cut. Agreed he def needs to take a pay cut.. But the post June 1st cut adds $10mil in dead money to next year's cap. That might be their only option depending on what they're looking to do but they very well may just not spend on FAs this year, take the cap hit this year and start fresh next year. It's just going to leave the roster very thin this year. But totally agreed, the guy has to take a pay cut. It's just a matter of if they're going to find a happy medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 I think Solder is washed. I hope he proves me wrong but he was basically the reason we drafted Andrew Thomas. Not at all what we bargained for when we made him the richest o-lineman in the league. At this point I'd be happy to see the Giants move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hopefully we can extend him to move his cap hit. $14M is too big of a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMENNATION Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 13 hours ago, Acgott said: Hopefully we can extend him to move his cap hit. $14M is too big of a hit. OL are an interesting breed when it comes to aging. Some hit a thick wall in their early 30s and fall off a cliff and then others play at an All-Pro level late into their 30s. And there doesn't seem to be too much in between that. Maybe it's just a result of the physical beating they take? In any event, extending Zeitler is a no-brainer to me but probably not for him. He's at the point in his career where he can probably get short-term deals with high yearly $$$$ for contending teams that are a piece away. Why give the Giants a break and hope we compete? Unfortunately if I'm him I either force them to cut me, trade me or keep me at my current contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, GMENNATION said: Why give the Giants a break and hope we compete? Unfortunately if I'm him I either force them to cut me, trade me or keep me at my current contract. He’s set to make $12M, none of it guaranteed. Coming off an average season at best, in what will be a strong buyers market. That’s a lot of money to risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMENNATION Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Acgott said: He’s set to make $12M, none of it guaranteed. Coming off an average season at best, in what will be a strong buyers market. That’s a lot of money to risk. I guess that's the gamble. It's hard to see the Giants extending him for more than $8MM per year. A guy like him probably wants to go compete for a championship at this point and can probably get $8-10MM per year from a team competing for a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, GMENNATION said: I guess that's the gamble. It's hard to see the Giants extending him for more than $8MM per year. A guy like him probably wants to go compete for a championship at this point and can probably get $8-10MM per year from a team competing for a championship. We seen 4 guards be released or rumored to be traded in past 4 days. Market is already getting interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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minutemancl Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Will Hernandez has been working with Duke Manyweather this offseason. Really good news. If anyone can get Will right, it is Duke. Also, he's working both left and right footwork/handwork. Judge and co are betting a whole lot on the coaching staffs ability to develop these young guys on the line. If it works out though, it could be really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Dan Duggan speculates that Leonard Williams may want 22 million plus a year. I like Leonard, but once again: that's Aaron Donald money, and he's not getting it from us. Especially not in a down market. Edited March 15, 2021 by y*so*blu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Nope, back to the Rams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Disappointing, but expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 That sucks. I think Tomlinson was a more important part of our defense than he got credit for. Was hoping we'd find a way to keep him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_Giants Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, y*so*blu said: That sucks. I think Tomlinson was a more important part of our defense than he got credit for. Was hoping we'd find a way to keep him around. It does suck but DL is an area we have depth at, if we keep Leonard. I am happy he got a good contract, I am thinking if it was not for the reduced salary cap, we would have found a way to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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