animaltested 1,706 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, redsoxsuck05 said: You think Kelenic and Gilbert have a legit grievance now? Imagine, you are a new President of a baseball team. And you decide to put your three best "face of the franchise' players (Kelenic, Julio and Gilbert) on blast to get gut chuckles from rich boat boomers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hrubes20 591 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 hours ago, beekay414 said: Kevin Mather LOL So cringeworthy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
animaltested 1,706 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) And Mather is gone; Seattle Mariners president/CEO Kevin Mather resigns after comments (espn.com) Edited February 22 by animaltested 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oregon Ducks 1,031 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Good. GTFO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFlaccoSeagulls 6,271 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/21/2021 at 10:35 PM, redsoxsuck05 said: You think Kelenic and Gilbert have a legit grievance now? When your owner essentially says no matter what happens they won't be up until X year (2022) or a certain date - yeah I'd say you have a legit grievance. This isn't a situation like with Vlad Jr. where he actually had to work on his defense - these guys are pro-ready and Mather just explicitly said they won't be getting called up until a calculated date. And he said that repeatedly. God, I hate being a Mariners fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redsoxsuck05 521 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: When your owner essentially says no matter what happens they won't be up until X year (2022) or a certain date - yeah I'd say you have a legit grievance. This isn't a situation like with Vlad Jr. where he actually had to work on his defense - these guys are pro-ready and Mather just explicitly said they won't be getting called up until a calculated date. And he said that repeatedly. God, I hate being a Mariners fan. Hey, at least you have Kelenic instead of Edwin Diaz and Robinson Cano! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFlaccoSeagulls 6,271 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 38 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Hey, at least you have Kelenic instead of Edwin Diaz and Robinson Cano! We have Kelenic until he bails at the very first opportunity to lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
animaltested 1,706 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/23/2021 at 11:19 AM, AFlaccoSeagulls said: We have Kelenic until he bails at the very first opportunity to lol Yeah, Jared turning down that extension (which if he hits his ceiling is absolutely the right call) does not bode well for him staying in Seattle longterm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFlaccoSeagulls 6,271 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, animaltested said: Yeah, Jared turning down that extension (which if he hits his ceiling is absolutely the right call) does not bode well for him staying in Seattle longterm. And I mean, who can blame him? "Hey, we know you're MLB-ready but we're just gonna....not promote you this year, but please sign this extension?" "Uhhh, no?" "Wow, you greedy little bastard!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramssuperbowl99 12,996 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 4 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: And I mean, who can blame him? "Hey, we know you're MLB-ready but we're just gonna....not promote you this year, but please sign this extension?" "Uhhh, no?" "Wow, you greedy little bastard!" You got Evan White to sign a bonkers extension a few years ago with that exact move. Edited February 25 by ramssuperbowl99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redsoxsuck05 521 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: You got Evan White to sign a bonkers extension a few years ago with that exact move. Evan White wasn't an elite prospect so I get why he took it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFlaccoSeagulls 6,271 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 14 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: You got Evan White to sign a bonkers extension a few years ago with that exact move. Yeah like @redsoxsuck05 pointed out, Evan White wasn't nearly the prospect that Kelenic is - even though he was an elite defensive 1B prospect, Kelenic has future MVP potential written all over him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramssuperbowl99 12,996 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Yeah like @redsoxsuck05 pointed out, Evan White wasn't nearly the prospect that Kelenic is - even though he was an elite defensive 1B prospect, Kelenic has future MVP potential written all over him. Both Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert signed extensions with 0 MLB service time, and I'd argue both of them qualified as elite prospects. This tactic is being propagated more and more after the Astros did it with Jonathan Singleton, and the reason is because it works. IMO, the biggest thing that would keep people from signing those mega-deals is the amateur bonus they get. Kelenic got drafted 6th overall and got like ~$5MM as a signing bonus. He's not desperate (though Luis Robert also got a huge bonus and he signed an extension, so everyone is different). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFlaccoSeagulls 6,271 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 25 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Both Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert signed extensions with 0 MLB service time, and I'd argue both of them qualified as elite prospects. This tactic is being propagated more and more after the Astros did it with Jonathan Singleton, and the reason is because it works. IMO, the biggest thing that would keep people from signing those mega-deals is the amateur bonus they get. Kelenic got drafted 6th overall and got like ~$5MM as a signing bonus. He's not desperate (though Luis Robert also got a huge bonus and he signed an extension, so everyone is different). But he knows the Mariners are manipulating his service time and refusing to call him up, and IIRC that contract also came with another Minor League Assignment clause. It was a no-brainer for him to not sign that. Maybe Evan White was different, or maybe Kelenic just didn't fall for the same trap others have. Idk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redsoxsuck05 521 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Both Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert signed extensions with 0 MLB service time, and I'd argue both of them qualified as elite prospects. This tactic is being propagated more and more after the Astros did it with Jonathan Singleton, and the reason is because it works. IMO, the biggest thing that would keep people from signing those mega-deals is the amateur bonus they get. Kelenic got drafted 6th overall and got like ~$5MM as a signing bonus. He's not desperate (though Luis Robert also got a huge bonus and he signed an extension, so everyone is different). I bet Singleton is glad he took that deal. White will last longer than Jon because he's a much better athlete and takes baseball more seriously, but he's like a Travis Lee that sells out for power. In other words I didn't think he'd ever get $8M on an open market when he reaches free agency. Edited February 25 by redsoxsuck05 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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