beekay414 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Ha, just saw you have your little crush Nick Fitzgerald going first round but then tell me to “relax” on Chubb. Pot, meet Kettle. And no, this post has nothing to do with Fitzgerald as a prospect. Just pointing out the hypocrisy, my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 44 minutes ago, mike23md said: Not seeing Arden Key go top spot. In that situation for the Browns, its either Darnold or Barkley. They also need secondary help, especially S. Not going to include Darnold because he's a redshirt sophomore and because he isn't worth that spot. Not going to put a RB #1 overall on a team with Isaiah Crowell and Duke Johnson, it was difficult enough to put him at #3. No chance in hell I'm putting a safety #1 overall (also because I haven't watched any yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Why isn't he trying? Any concern about that? His head coach being a cartoon character might have something to do with it. He's been training with NFL guys for a few years and he's already proven how talented he is. I can't blame him for not being motivated on an underachieving team that fired the coach that recruited him, especially when he isn't even being asked to rush the passer that much right now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, bkobow05 said: Ha, just saw you have your little crush Nick Fitzgerald going first round but then tell me to “relax” on Chubb. Pot, meet Kettle. And no, this post has nothing to do with Fitzgerald as a prospect. Just pointing out the hypocrisy, my man. I don't know why you're taking this so personally. I have Chubb ranked over Fitzgerald, and I don't have a "little crush" on Fitzgerald either. I don't even have him ranked in the first round right now, I just have him going in the 1st because teams are desperate for quarterbacks. I told you to relax because you were definitely declaring that Chubb won't last until #22 even though it's October...these are just projections at this point. It isn't that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: Not going to include Darnold because he's a redshirt sophomore and because he isn't worth that spot. Not going to put a RB #1 overall on a team with Isaiah Crowell and Duke Johnson, it was difficult enough to put him at #3. No chance in hell I'm putting a safety #1 overall (also because I haven't watched any yet). While true, Barkley is much better than Crowell or Johnson and neither of them are really doing anything this season. The only S that could likely go that high would be James anyway, but I agree, a S should not go first overall. Just cannot see the Browns taking another EDGE after Garrett, and trading for Collins and adding Nassib, Orchard and Ogbah to the rotation. I am not a fan of the USC QB's cause they all come out and absolutely suck, but there is no better option. If Darnold is going in top spots across the board it is likely he will have to come out considering he has an untalented USC team surrounding him. Barkley is going as high as 2 in quite a few mocks because he is that damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: I don't know why you're taking this so personally. I have Chubb ranked over Fitzgerald, and I don't have a "little crush" on Fitzgerald either. I don't even have him ranked in the first round right now, I just have him going in the 1st because teams are desperate for quarterbacks. I told you to relax because you were definitely declaring that Chubb won't last until #22 even though it's October...these are just projections at this point. It isn't that serious. I agree that Chubb wont make first round. 2nd round projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, mike23md said: While true, Barkley is much better than Crowell or Johnson and neither of them are really doing anything this season. The only S that could likely go that high would be James anyway, but I agree, a S should not go first overall. Just cannot see the Browns taking another EDGE after Garrett, and trading for Collins and adding Nassib, Orchard and Ogbah to the rotation. I am not a fan of the USC QB's cause they all come out and absolutely suck, but there is no better option. If Darnold is going in top spots across the board it is likely he will have to come out considering he has an untalented USC team surrounding him. Barkley is going as high as 2 in quite a few mocks because he is that damn good. No doubt Barkley is good, but with the amount of picks a team like the Browns have, they don't need to grab him. They can get someone like Chubb, Ballage, Freeman, Penny, Harris, Scarbrough, Scott, Love, Gaskin, etc. with one of their 2nd/3rd rounders. At the moment the RB class looks very strong, no need to take one at #1 when you can get a starting level player later on. On the other hand, they aren't going to find another pass rushing talent like Key, which would be unreal to pair with a talent like Myles Garrett. Besides, Garrett is the only real impact pass rusher they have. Collins is a linebacker, Ogbah is best fit as a rotational guy, and Orchard/Nassib are just depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, mike23md said: I agree that Chubb wont make first round. 2nd round projection. We're talking about Bradley Chubb, not Nick Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, IDOG_det said: We're talking about Bradley Chubb, not Nick Chubb Oh, haha, didn't think there could be that common of a name to have 2 in the same draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, mike23md said: Oh, haha, didn't think there could be that common of a name to have 2 in the same draft. They're cousins. Bradley Chubb has an older brother in the NFL as well (Brandon Chubb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Too many Chubbies floatin around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: I don't know why you're taking this so personally. I have Chubb ranked over Fitzgerald, and I don't have a "little crush" on Fitzgerald either. I don't even have him ranked in the first round right now, I just have him going in the 1st because teams are desperate for quarterbacks. I told you to relax because you were definitely declaring that Chubb won't last until #22 even though it's October...these are just projections at this point. It isn't that serious. Here’s an idea....don’t tell someone to “relax” when they disagree with where you place someone and then try to make it out like the other person made it personal I’m very aware of what month it is and how the process works. I simply strongly disagree with your placement of Chubb considering lesser players at his position are already off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/8/2017 at 8:52 AM, IDOG_det said: 1. Cleveland Browns: EDGE Arden Key, LSU2. San Francisco 49ers: QB Josh Rosen, UCLA3. New York Giants: RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State4. Los Angeles Chargers: CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville5. Indianapolis Colts: OL Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame6. Cincinnati Bengals: OL Aaron Stinnie, James Madison7. Chicago Bears: WR Auden Tate, Florida State8. Miami Dolphins: QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College10. Baltimore Ravens: RB Derrius Guice, LSU11. Arizona Cardinals: WR James Washington, Oklahoma State12. Seattle Seahawks: OL Mason Cole, Michigan13. Cleveland Browns (from the Houston Texans): WR Courtland Sutton, SMU14. Jacksonville Jaguars: EDGE Obgonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma15. Dallas Cowboys: DL Maurice Hurst Jr., Michigan16. New York Jets: QB Riley Ferguson, Memphis17. New Orleans Saints: DL Vita Vea, Washington18. Oakland Raiders: LB Josey Jewell, Iowa19. Minnesota Vikings: OL Billy Price, Ohio State20. Washington Racial Slurs: DL Da'Ron Payne, Alabama21. Tennessee Titans: OL Braden Smith, Auburn22. New England Patriots: EDGE Bradley Chubb, NC State23. Los Angeles Rams: DL Derrick Nnadi, Florida State24. Pittsburgh Steelers: QB Nick Fitzpatrick, Mississippi State25. Philadelphia Eagles: WR Anthony Miller, Memphis26. Detroit Lions: EDGE Kentavious Street, NC State27. Denver Broncos: OL Tyrell Crosby, Oregon28. Green Bay Packers: EDGE Hercules Mata'afa, Washington State29. Carolina Panthers: EDGE Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest30. Atlanta Falcons: OL Brian Allen, Michigan State31. Buffalo Bills: WR Emmanuel Butler, Northern Arizona32. Buffalo Bills (from the Kansas City Chiefs): LB Kendall Joseph, Clemson If you don't see a player you think should be in there, I either haven't watched him yet or I have watched him and kept him out for good reason. Ok so all of these players are not included in the 1st round, to me that is shocking especially for a few. Sure some you think might not declare or whatever, but honestly 75-90% of all the JR or RS SOPH I listed will come out early this year I feel. Derwin James Florida State S JR Sam Darnold USC QB RS SOPH Christian Wilkins Clemson DL JR Orlando Brown Oklahoma OT RS JR Mike Gesicki Penn State TE SR Tarvarus McFadden Florida State CB JR Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama S/CB JR Clelin Ferrell Clemson DE RS SOPH Malik Jefferson Texas OLB JR Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame OT RS SR Quin Blanding Virginia S SR Jerome Baker Ohio State OLB JR Calvin Ridley Alabama WR JR Roquan Smith Georgia ILB JR Martez Ivey Florida OG JR Mitch Hyatt Clemson OT JR Equanimeous St. Brown Notre Dame WR JR Jessie Bates III Wake Forest S RS SOPH Carlton Davis Auburn CB JR Deontay Burnett USC WR JR Ferguson is good but not a 1st round talent, he is not better than Mayfield, Rudolph or even Stidham not to mention Rosen, Jackson or Darnold. Fitzpatrick as a 1st rounder, now that is way out there I think, the kid played awful against Georgia a very pro style defense. He is a runner first and if he could not run the ball he would not be very good. He will not declare early for the draft I feel because he is not ready at all. Roquan Smith is way better than Joseph at ILB, is even better than Jewell in terms of potential and upside as well. Tate is a walking injury, having a good year but is injured so often and does not get great separation speed either, nice to have a freshman QB though that forces him the football, good for him anyway. Jaire Alexander, especially with the injury, I would be shocked to see him picked that high, good player but even before the injury he was not a top 5 pick by any means. I agree with Washington and Hurst sure is climbing, could easily climb his way into being a high pick like that ,especially with how good he is playing. Mata'afa I still question a little, very quick and interesting as a talent but not sure how rare he is athletically, not very elite physically. And Street I just do not see him as an elite defensive lineman at this point, at least not 1st rounder with his lack of elite pass rushing skills. Miller is a fine talent at WR but I see teams sleeping on him and falling to the 2nd or 3rd round. Mason Cole is good but I have him as more of a 2nd round guy, he is no were as good as Orlando Brown or McGlinchey, much less Connor Williams who will see if he even comes out or not. Vea I like a lot as well, great talent. Key going #1 I question, he has not looked like a #1 overall pick so far this year at all. Darius Jackson of Jacksonville State could climb up in the draft I think, super quick and rare ability to turn the corner as a pass rusher, undersized but could do great things in a 3/4. Crosby on Oregon is a interesting player but 1st rounder I do not see that, same with Allen on Michigan State or Price on Ohio State. Is Price better than Elflein, I do not think so and Elflein was a 3rd rounder, unless Price does some great things the rest of the year overall careers I think Elflein had a much better career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 With Irving and Collins, we have no need for a DT. I would much rather have Chubb to actually compliment Lawrence on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastercheddaar Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 For the Browns: If we are picking #1 again it is because our offense needs work. Our D has been pretty good this year and I think it'll improve. Remember we also have 3 2nd rounders. We can trade up or pick D in the 2nd round. That being said, I think we go Offensive at #1. Best QB or Barkley. For Houston pick, I like the call with Wide Receiver. That is all Mastercheddaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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