packfanfb Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: It’s just sad that we have to root against our defense for something good to happen. I just know 100% we’re going to put up a strong performance against a depleted offense and then we will scrap our way to 15th overall defense with some truly pathetic offenses we play only to get **** ****** on national television in either the divisional or championship round. LOL, I know it's sad, but it's also painfully, undeniably true, which of course, makes it even more sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, packfanfb said: Gute you sly SOB. Now I'm firmly against firing Gute. Well done. Gute .. moving the needle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I want some details of the FO disagreement "at the highest levels" before I know what to think of Gute's role in today's events (or non-events, as it were) I am genuinely curious who was on each side of the disagreement. Seems likely enough that MLF was stumping for Fuller, and Gute was pumping the brakes, but that is a total assumption on my part. If Murphy and/or Ball are stepping in and blocking deals Gute is trying to make, that's a bad sign at multiple levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: It’s just sad that we have to root against our defense for something good to happen. I just know 100% we’re going to put up a strong performance against a depleted offense and then we will scrap our way to 15th overall defense with some truly pathetic offenses we play only to get **** ****** on national television in either the divisional or championship round. We have to find a way to get him out before the Jax game, because you know that's going to be the game where we have like 6 sacks and 3 ints against Mike Glennon and everyone says "we're back" on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, Mazrimiv said: I want some details of the FO disagreement "at the highest levels" I read that to mean gute vs lafleur. I didn't think it actually said "front office disagreements" it said more "organization at the highest levels" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Immensely. The last time our defense made a play was in a game where Alexander blitzed against the call. Hyperbole... got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, skibrett15 said: 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: I want some details of the FO disagreement "at the highest levels" I read that to mean gute vs lafleur. I didn't think it actually said "front office disagreements" it said more "organization at the highest levels" I read it to mean the reporter is making it up because they have no actual idea lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: I want some details of the FO disagreement "at the highest levels" before I know what to think of Gute's role in today's events (or non-events, as it were) I am genuinely curious who was on each side of the disagreement. Seems likely enough that MLF was stumping for Fuller, and Gute was pumping the brakes, but that is a total assumption on my part. If Murphy and/or Ball are stepping in and blocking deals Gute is trying to make, that's a bad sign at multiple levels. If that is happening I think Gute would probably resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, skibrett15 said: I read that to mean gute vs lafleur. I didn't think it actually said "front office disagreements" it said more "organization at the highest levels" That is the kind of my point. Right now there are no details, and the blurb itself is vaguely worded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: I read it to mean the reporter is making it up because they have no actual idea lol Agreed .. just some hack reporter trying to add legs to a story that was peddled back before MLF was hired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, incognito_man said: I read it to mean the reporter is making it up because they have no actual idea lol I assume most national reporters have a good bit more knowledge about inside goings on relative to the local media and fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, skibrett15 said: I assume most national reporters have a good bit more knowledge about inside goings on relative to the local media and fanbase. why? There are literally 4 people that know the discussions amongst MLF, Gute, Ball and Murphy. You assume they are more likely to talk to national reporters about this than local ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: If that is happening I think Gute would probably resign. After what went down during the last couple years of the TT era, and the steps that led up to the current FO structure, I am prepared to believe anything about the way this FO operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Their revenue is down due to covid. I dont think Gute can be as aggressive as rich team owners. Edited November 3, 2020 by Jaire_Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: why? There are literally 4 people that know the discussions amongst MLF, Gute, Ball and Murphy. You assume they are more likely to talk to national reporters about this than local ones? will fuller's agent is probably the source. Texans are assuredly updating him as to what is going on, because it's good business to be professional to a player who might be traded. Cal mcnair is updating fuller's agent, and told him what was going on between the GB side of it and why the trade talks are moving forward or stalling or what to expect. national reporters always have a better idea of what's going on under the surface. National reporters are the only reporters who carry any value to the team from an information and knowledge perspective., because they have information about... other teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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