jimkelly02 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: It's pretty sad that we need so much help. We can use a stud at nearly every position. No doubt D needs to be the focal point of the offseason but on the flip side I highly doubt LW hits the market. I would take him at $17 any day of the week over Juju as an interior disruptor would make a greater impact for this team. A high volume WR would be a nice luxury but I would also be content rolling into next season with our current WR corp minus Williams. I would love to see Edwards take the next step in his progression as I think he has a lot of potential. I can’t disagree with any of that..... I know I’m being optimistic to hope LW or Justin Simmons hits FA..... but if they don’t there are other players that we could sign to significantly upgrade the D. and I’d love JUJU if we could find the money I just don’t think it’ll be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Ty will killed the dynamics of our offense also Trent and richie. 50$ dollars for 4 games by Trent and 1 from richie. 5 games between 3 guys being paid big bucks Yeah we really wasted a ton of money. And Williams last minute Exit definitely threw a Major kink In the offense. I think trents gone 100%. We can sign a FA For way less. This year showed we can get by with Sam Young at RT So we don’t need a Top Rt.... but should be able to find a good Upgrade at good value. I wouldn’t throw out the idea of incognito coming back at a reduced salary. I thought good was okay but not great and Simpson needs time. id love to have a healthY incognito back at low salary With active game bonuses and draft A 3rd/4th round g to Go along with resigned good and Simpson. then In ‘22 Simpson starts with The ‘21 draft choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, dante9876 said: See you keep saying stand out. We not asking for that. Contribute. Get snaps over zay Jones. Moreau playing over witten. I guarantee with out looking I can find 3 round picks from last two drafts that have contributed more than edwards muse and bowden did for raiders this year. Honestly it wouldn't be hard at all since edwards only one who actually has played a snap for raiders. And yes I keep saying stand out cuz that’s my term..... never said you said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: Yeah we really wasted a ton of money. And Williams last minute Exit definitely threw a Major kink In the offense. I think trents gone 100%. We can sign a FA For way less. This year showed we can get by with Sam Young at RT So we don’t need a Top Rt.... but should be able to find a good Upgrade at good value. I wouldn’t throw out the idea of incognito coming back at a reduced salary. I thought good was okay but not great and Simpson needs time. id love to have a healthY incognito back at low salary With active game bonuses and draft A 3rd/4th round g to Go along with resigned good and Simpson. then In ‘22 Simpson starts with The ‘21 draft choice Can we? He got destroyed. If we're going to pay 1 of our guys, it's trent for me IMO. Offense looked better with him on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Imagine if Edwards and Ruggs even got 15 targets combined in a game. Maybe next year they'll start to really flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 One of the letdowns was not getting our rookie wideouts going... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Can we? He got destroyed. If we're going to pay 1 of our guys, it's trent for me IMO. Offense looked better with him on the field. Trent gave up on us bro.... came to camp way out of shape.... milked an injury .... came back at the very end of season..... plus he had the COVID contamination thing that got a bunch of players to miss a game. After 5 games (and only 11g... one of which he left after a few snaps the year before) for 21.5M we want to keep him? No thanks! He’s a 5-10 game per year player..... he’ll never give us 15/16g. He got paid and quit on us. No way I’d even consider giving him 14M in ‘21 when he has no dead cap. That’s the #2 (after only Lane Johnson) cap number for a RT. cut him after you have his replacement.... he doesn’t have any deadlines for guaranteed salary that I’m aware of. We could replace him with a guy like Taylor Moton for the same amount of money. https://sisdatahub.com/players/4800 or sign a OT that gets cut and is 1/2 the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, jimkelly02 said: Trent gave up on us bro.... came to camp way out of shape.... milked an injury .... came back at the very end of season..... plus he had the COVID contamination thing that got a bunch of players to miss a game. After 5 games (and only 11g... one of which he left after a few snaps the year before) for 21.5M we want to keep him? No thanks! He’s a 5-10 game per year player..... he’ll never give us 15/16g. He got paid and quit on us. No way I’d even consider giving him 14M in ‘21 when he has no dead cap. That’s the #2 (after only Lane Johnson) cap number for a RT. cut him after you have his replacement.... he doesn’t have any deadlines for guaranteed salary that I’m aware of. We could replace him with a guy like Taylor Moton for the same amount of money. https://sisdatahub.com/players/4800 or sign a OT that gets cut and is 1/2 the cost. Agree to disagree. Tackles are worth their weight in gold and I don’t want to sink valuable draft picks into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Can we? He got destroyed. If we're going to pay 1 of our guys, it's trent for me IMO. Offense looked better with him on the field. Was just about to say the same he looked like a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Agree to disagree. Tackles are worth their weight in gold and I don’t want to sink valuable draft picks into them. I’d prolly trade Trent for sharpe strait up lol I kid but dam tho you’d get more value. Plus Trent coming back hasn’t turned us into some juggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Wonder how different it would be on offense if it had worked out with Cooper and had Waller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, SimonGruber said: Wonder how different it would be on offense if it had worked out with Cooper and had Waller What really happened btw carr n coop? they were supposed to grow together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Tyrell is slated to get 11 million next year. Obviously won’t be around. My question is would you give that 11 million to Nelly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: What really happened btw carr n coop? they were supposed to grow together Idk but it seem like they had something going on. Devante Adams and DC close to this day, and just seems like Cooper is the opposite. DC isn’t the type to throw someone under the bus, or try to push a beef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Tyrell is slated to get 11 million next year. Obviously won’t be around. My question is would you give that 11 million to Nelly? Ideally not so much. But I’d give him 7-10ish. The old drop Agholor might come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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