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Didn’t see this thread anywhere (sorry if I missed it). I suck at coming up with good comparisons but always enjoyed reading the player comps you guys come up with.

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So I’ve been watching Justyn Ross in hopes that maybe he declares and could last to the Ravens selection in the 1st round... he’s reminding me of AJ Green. Outside of the medical concern, he looks like a top 15 WR type of talent.

 

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Dylan Moses, LB, 235/6'3"

 

Obviously notable;

- Motor and Energy

- Aggression 

- Smashes into blockers

- Rangy and quick

 

Comp: Myles Jack or Lavonte David. 3-4 ILB (or OLB) who flies around and is a missile. 

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D'Eriq King = Antwaan Randle El (WR) Seneca Wallace (QB)

Jaylen Twyman - Geno Atkins

Marvin Wilson = Akiem Hicks 

Carlos Basham Jr = Bradley Chubb

Ja'Marr Chase = OBJ

Micah Parsons = Bobby Wagner (with elite pass rushing instincts)

Dylan Moses = Fred Warner 

Wyatt Davis = Jahri Evans 

Trey Smith = Brandon Brooks 

Cade Mays = Brandon Scherff

Aidan Hutchinson = Kyle Vanden Bosch

Chris Rumph II = Frank Clark

 

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On 11/17/2020 at 4:46 AM, Hunter2_1 said:

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Dylan Moses, LB, 235/6'3"

 

Obviously notable;

- Motor and Energy

- Aggression 

- Smashes into blockers

- Rangy and quick

 

Comp: Myles Jack or Lavonte David. 3-4 ILB (or OLB) who flies around and is a missile. 

He is a slow processor in the box. I love his upside, but he’s got a lot of work to do mentally. He takes false steps constantly. 

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Some other comparisons I see with specific players that I like enough:

DeVonta Smith = Chad Johnson/Ochocinco
Pat Friermuth = Mark Andrews and/or young Jason Witten
Micah Parsons = Darius Leonard
Jackson Carmon = Kelechi Osemele
Darius Stills = Geno Atkins
Brevin Jordan = Delanie Walker
Rondale Moore = Percy Harvin

Other notable names I like that I’m working on an optimal comparison, but not fully in love with the one I have:
Creed Humphrey = Travis Frederick (?)
Kyle Pitts = Darren Waller (?)
Jalen Mayfield = Marshal Yanda (?)
Hamilcar Rashed = ? Reminds me of someone but no idea who yet
 

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Just a few of my skill position comps.

 

 

Quarterbacks:
*Trevor Lawrence = More physically gifted Andrew Luck
*Justin Fields = Deshaun Watson
*Trey Lance = Bigger David Garrard
*Zach Wilson = ?
*Kyle Trask = ?
*Sam Ehlinger = Daniel Jones
*Kenny Pickett = Jake Plummer
*D'Eriq King = Braxton Miller

Runningbacks
*Travis Etienne = Jamaal Charles
*Najee Harris = Beanie Wells
*Chuba Hubbard = Knowshon Moreno
Javian Hawkins* = CJ Spiller
*Michael Carter = Lamar Miller

Wide Receivers: 
*Ja'Marr Chase = Amari Cooper
*Jalen Waddle= Much more consistent Ted Ginn Jr.
*Devonta Smith = Terry McLaurin
*Sage Surrat = Michael Floyd
*Tylan Wallace = Hines Ward
*Rashod Bateman = Dez Bryant
*Dez Fitzpatrick = Keenan McCardell
*Dazz Newsome = Randall Cobb
*Chris Olave = Jordy Nelson
*Rondale Moore= DJ Moore
*Justyn Ross = Prime Sidney Rice
*Tutu Atwell = Santana Moss
*Dyami Brown = Donte Stallworth

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For now:

Kyle Trask = Nick Foles (Matt Ryan or Matt Schaub if he ends up in a really good spot)

(Foles shouldn't be seen as an insult. I think Trask can thrive in the right environment. He's just not a guy who will overcome his circumstances. He needs protection, and he needs dynamic playmakers.)

Kyle Pitts = Jimmy Graham (prime version)

(Originally, I thought Tony G., but Pitts is a better athlete, whereas Tony was more skilled. Like Jimmy Graham, Pitts is long, freakishly athletic, and seemingly catches everything you throw him, but he's not a good blocker. He's basically an oversized receiver.)

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I don't even think there's a good comparison for Kyle Pitts. He's extremely unique with the variety of ways he wins. He's a better route runner than most guys 40lbs lighter than him. 

 

Najee Harris reminds me of Steven Jackson. Elite size, contact balance, and underrated agility, both guys win with relentlessness, can flash as outlet receivers, and show off surprising giddy up in the open field. 

This is a popular comp, but Travis Etienne is honestly just a bigger Alvin Kamara.

Chuba Hubbard reminds me of Ryan Mathews. Tough runners at the collegiate level that win with strength despite less than ideal acceleration or girth. I'm skeptical of Chuba holding up at the pro level with his body type and running style. Just a personal opinion, but I wouldn't consider him until the 3rd round. 

Can't really think of a good comp for Kenny Gainwell. A faster Tarik Cohen? A weaker Austin Ekeler? Point is, he's a capable change of pace back who can be an elite mismatch option in the receiving game. 

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I'll throw out a few more while I'm reviewing my RB rankings. 

 

Jaret Patterson = Myles Gaskin 

Very similar size profiles. Both players lack a standout trait whether it be power, speed, or receiving ability. Both prospects maximize their ability with elite vision and patience to setup blockers and get defenders out of position. Neither of these prospects should be considered until Day 3 of the draft (at the earliest) and both max out as complimentary committee / backup options. 

Michael Carter = Jerick McKinnon

I doubt Carter tests quite as well as McKinnon did, but both players have similar size profiles and both players possess great short area burst and polished receiving ability (though I'd like to see more from Carter here tbh). Both guys can show flashes of brilliance at the NFL level but max out upper-echelon committee pieces. 

 

I really can't think of a good comp for Kylin Hill so I'll have to go back to the drawing board for that one. Aaron Jones comes to mind but frankly I don't think quite that highly of Hill as a prospect so I'm trying to think of one that fits my projection a bit more. 

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On 11/21/2020 at 3:12 PM, QBIso said:

*Jalen Waddle= Much more consistent Ted Ginn Jr.

I think you mean Joey Galloway here.

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
Career       198 175 1444 701 10950 15.6 77 477 81 3.5 55.3 48.5% 7.6 63 496 1 16 86 7.9 2.5 0.3 764 15.0 11446 78 12 99
5 yrs SEA     71 67 585 283 4457 15.7 37 200 81 4.0 62.8 48.4% 7.6 45 378 1 12 86 8.4 5.3 0.6 328 14.7 4835 38 5 48
5 yrs TAM     66 56 474 248 3912 15.8 28 168 80 3.8 59.3 52.3% 8.3 7 33 0 1 14 4.7 0.5 0.1 255 15.5 3945 28 3 32
4 yrs DAL     48 46 327 151 2341 15.5 12 97 80 3.1 48.8 46.2% 7.2 11 85 0 3 21 7.7 1.8 0.2 162 15.0 2426 12 4 17
1 yr NWE     3 2 20 7 67 9.6 0 3 19 2.3 22.3 35.0% 3.4                 7 9.6 67 0 0 1
1 yr WAS     10 4 38 12 173 14.4 0 9 62 1.2 17.3 31.6% 4.6                 12 14.4 173 0 0
1995 24 SEA WR 84 16 16 133 67 1039 15.5 7 42 59 4.2 64.9 50.4% 7.8 11 154 1 4 86 14.0 9.6 0.7 78 15.3 1193 8 1 12
1996 25 SEA WR 84 16 16 121 57 987 17.3 7 40 65 3.6 61.7 47.1% 8.2 15 127 0 6 51 8.5 7.9 0.9 72 15.5 1114 7 2 11
1997 26 SEA WR 84 15 15 147 72 1049 14.6 12 55 53 4.8 69.9 49.0% 7.1 9 72 0 1 44 8.0 4.8 0.6 81 13.8 1121 12 1 10
1998 27 SEA WR 84 16 16 132 65 1047 16.1 10 46 81 4.1 65.4 49.2% 7.9 9 26 0 1 14 2.9 1.6 0.6 74 14.5 1073 10 1 12
1999 28 SEA   84 8 4 52 22 335 15.2 1 17 48 2.8 41.9 42.3% 6.4 1 -1 0 0 -1 -1.0 -0.1 0.1 23 14.5 334 1 0 3
2000 29 DAL   84 1 1 12 4 62 15.5 1 4 22 4.0 62.0 33.3% 5.2                 4 15.5 62 1 0 1
2001 30 DAL WR 84 16 16 112 52 699 13.4 3 33 47 3.3 43.7 46.4% 6.2 3 32 0 2 16 10.7 2.0 0.2 55 13.3 731 3 1 6
2002 31 DAL WR 84 16 16 120 61 908 14.9 6 33 80 3.8 56.8 50.8% 7.6 4 31 0 1 21 7.8 1.9 0.3 65 14.4 939 6 2 5
2003 32 DAL WR 84 15 13 83 34 672 19.8 2 27 64 2.3 44.8 41.0% 8.1 4 22 0 0 10 5.5 1.5 0.3 38 18.3 694 2 1 5
2004 33 TAM WR 84 10 7 53 33 416 12.6 5 25 36 3.3 41.6 62.3% 7.8 2 19 0 1 14 9.5 1.9 0.2 35 12.4 435 5 3 4
2005 34 TAM WR 84 16 16 152 83 1287 15.5 10 56 80 5.2 80.4 54.6% 8.5 2 4 0 0 4 2.0 0.3 0.1 85 15.2 1291 10 0 11
2006 35 TAM WR 84 16 14 143 62 1057 17.0 7 44 64 3.9 66.1 43.4% 7.4 2 9 0 0 7 4.5 0.6 0.1 64 16.7 1066 7 0 7
2007 36 TAM WR 84 15 15 98 57 1014 17.8 6 37 69 3.8 67.6 58.2% 10.3 1 1 0 0 1 1.0 0.1 0.1 58 17.5 1015 6 0 9
2008 37 TAM   84 9 4 28 13 138 10.6 0 6 22 1.4 15.3 46.4% 4.9                 13 10.6 138 0 0 1
2009 38 NWE   13 3 2 20 7 67 9.6 0 3 19 2.3 22.3 35.0% 3.4                 7 9.6 67 0 0 1
2010 39 WAS   84 10 4 38 12 173 14.4 0 9 62 1.2 17.3 31.6% 4.6                 12 14.4 173 0 0 1

 

Great measurables despite his smaller stature (Joey was 5'11) and production to match it.

https://fansided.com/2015/02/18/15-fastest-40-times-nfl-history/?scrlybrkr=8aeae651

 

Quote

 

4.18

Joey Galloway (Ohio State) ripped off a blazing 4.18 back in 1995. The Ohio native played 16 seasons in the NFL for five different franchises. His speed made him a dangerous deep-threat during his tenure in the league. He finished with 77 touchdown catches and 15.6 yards per reception over the course of his career.

Apparently, he can still fly.

Former Ohio State quarterback and ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit tweeted out in July of 2014 that Galloway posted a 4.29 on grass at the age of 42.

 

 

 

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Galloway is a good comp. I dig it. I think his speed is actually better than Ruggs despite the reports that Ruggs was definitely the fastest. Waddle has more wiggle and seems to be more of a “cya” guy in space. Ruggs had better hands and ball tracking tho. 

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