2021 Draft Comparisons

[Chops013]

Didn’t see this thread anywhere (sorry if I missed it). I suck at coming up with good comparisons but always enjoyed reading the player comps you guys come up with.

Who ya got?

[diamondbull424]

So I’ve been watching Justyn Ross in hopes that maybe he declares and could last to the Ravens selection in the 1st round... he’s reminding me of AJ Green. Outside of the medical concern, he looks like a top 15 WR type of talent.

 

[Hunter2_1]

Dylan Moses, LB, 235/6'3"

 

Obviously notable;

- Motor and Energy

- Aggression 

- Smashes into blockers

- Rangy and quick

 

Comp: Myles Jack or Lavonte David. 3-4 ILB (or OLB) who flies around and is a missile. 

[MSURacerDT55]

D'Eriq King = Antwaan Randle El (WR) Seneca Wallace (QB)

Jaylen Twyman - Geno Atkins

Marvin Wilson = Akiem Hicks 

Carlos Basham Jr = Bradley Chubb

Ja'Marr Chase = OBJ

Micah Parsons = Bobby Wagner (with elite pass rushing instincts)

Dylan Moses = Fred Warner 

Wyatt Davis = Jahri Evans 

Trey Smith = Brandon Brooks 

Cade Mays = Brandon Scherff

Aidan Hutchinson = Kyle Vanden Bosch

Chris Rumph II = Frank Clark

 

[QBIso]

On 11/17/2020 at 4:46 AM, Hunter2_1 said:

Dylan Moses, LB, 235/6'3"

 

Obviously notable;

- Motor and Energy

- Aggression 

- Smashes into blockers

- Rangy and quick

 

Comp: Myles Jack or Lavonte David. 3-4 ILB (or OLB) who flies around and is a missile. 

He is a slow processor in the box. I love his upside, but he’s got a lot of work to do mentally. He takes false steps constantly. 

[diamondbull424]

Some other comparisons I see with specific players that I like enough:

DeVonta Smith = Chad Johnson/Ochocinco
Pat Friermuth = Mark Andrews and/or young Jason Witten
Micah Parsons = Darius Leonard
Jackson Carmon = Kelechi Osemele
Darius Stills = Geno Atkins
Brevin Jordan = Delanie Walker
Rondale Moore = Percy Harvin

Other notable names I like that I’m working on an optimal comparison, but not fully in love with the one I have:
Creed Humphrey = Travis Frederick (?)
Kyle Pitts = Darren Waller (?)
Jalen Mayfield = Marshal Yanda (?)
Hamilcar Rashed = ? Reminds me of someone but no idea who yet
 

[QBIso]

Just a few of my skill position comps.

 

 

Quarterbacks:
*Trevor Lawrence = More physically gifted Andrew Luck
*Justin Fields = Deshaun Watson
*Trey Lance = Bigger David Garrard
*Zach Wilson = ?
*Kyle Trask = ?
*Sam Ehlinger = Daniel Jones
*Kenny Pickett = Jake Plummer
*D'Eriq King = Braxton Miller

Runningbacks
*Travis Etienne = Jamaal Charles
*Najee Harris = Beanie Wells
*Chuba Hubbard = Knowshon Moreno
Javian Hawkins* = CJ Spiller
*Michael Carter = Lamar Miller

Wide Receivers: 
*Ja'Marr Chase = Amari Cooper
*Jalen Waddle= Much more consistent Ted Ginn Jr.
*Devonta Smith = Terry McLaurin
*Sage Surrat = Michael Floyd
*Tylan Wallace = Hines Ward
*Rashod Bateman = Dez Bryant
*Dez Fitzpatrick = Keenan McCardell
*Dazz Newsome = Randall Cobb
*Chris Olave = Jordy Nelson
*Rondale Moore= DJ Moore
*Justyn Ross = Prime Sidney Rice
*Tutu Atwell = Santana Moss
*Dyami Brown = Donte Stallworth

[jrry32]

For now:

Kyle Trask = Nick Foles (Matt Ryan or Matt Schaub if he ends up in a really good spot)

(Foles shouldn't be seen as an insult. I think Trask can thrive in the right environment. He's just not a guy who will overcome his circumstances. He needs protection, and he needs dynamic playmakers.)

Kyle Pitts = Jimmy Graham (prime version)

(Originally, I thought Tony G., but Pitts is a better athlete, whereas Tony was more skilled. Like Jimmy Graham, Pitts is long, freakishly athletic, and seemingly catches everything you throw him, but he's not a good blocker. He's basically an oversized receiver.)

Edited November 23, 2020 by jrry32

[SaveOurSonics]

I don't even think there's a good comparison for Kyle Pitts. He's extremely unique with the variety of ways he wins. He's a better route runner than most guys 40lbs lighter than him. 

 

Najee Harris reminds me of Steven Jackson. Elite size, contact balance, and underrated agility, both guys win with relentlessness, can flash as outlet receivers, and show off surprising giddy up in the open field. 

This is a popular comp, but Travis Etienne is honestly just a bigger Alvin Kamara.

Chuba Hubbard reminds me of Ryan Mathews. Tough runners at the collegiate level that win with strength despite less than ideal acceleration or girth. I'm skeptical of Chuba holding up at the pro level with his body type and running style. Just a personal opinion, but I wouldn't consider him until the 3rd round. 

Can't really think of a good comp for Kenny Gainwell. A faster Tarik Cohen? A weaker Austin Ekeler? Point is, he's a capable change of pace back who can be an elite mismatch option in the receiving game. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by SaveOurSonics

[SaveOurSonics]

I'll throw out a few more while I'm reviewing my RB rankings. 

 

Jaret Patterson = Myles Gaskin 

Very similar size profiles. Both players lack a standout trait whether it be power, speed, or receiving ability. Both prospects maximize their ability with elite vision and patience to setup blockers and get defenders out of position. Neither of these prospects should be considered until Day 3 of the draft (at the earliest) and both max out as complimentary committee / backup options. 

Michael Carter = Jerick McKinnon

I doubt Carter tests quite as well as McKinnon did, but both players have similar size profiles and both players possess great short area burst and polished receiving ability (though I'd like to see more from Carter here tbh). Both guys can show flashes of brilliance at the NFL level but max out upper-echelon committee pieces. 

 

I really can't think of a good comp for Kylin Hill so I'll have to go back to the drawing board for that one. Aaron Jones comes to mind but frankly I don't think quite that highly of Hill as a prospect so I'm trying to think of one that fits my projection a bit more. 

[MSURacerDT55]

Andre Cisco = Kevin Byard

[MWil23]

On 11/21/2020 at 3:12 PM, QBIso said:

*Jalen Waddle= Much more consistent Ted Ginn Jr.

I think you mean Joey Galloway here.

					Games		Receiving											Rushing								Total Yds
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	1D	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Y/Tgt	Rush	Yds	TD	1D	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	Touch	Y/Tch	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
Career					198	175	1444	701	10950	15.6	77	477	81	3.5	55.3	48.5%	7.6	63	496	1	16	86	7.9	2.5	0.3	764	15.0	11446	78	12	99
5 yrs		SEA			71	67	585	283	4457	15.7	37	200	81	4.0	62.8	48.4%	7.6	45	378	1	12	86	8.4	5.3	0.6	328	14.7	4835	38	5	48
5 yrs		TAM			66	56	474	248	3912	15.8	28	168	80	3.8	59.3	52.3%	8.3	7	33	0	1	14	4.7	0.5	0.1	255	15.5	3945	28	3	32
4 yrs		DAL			48	46	327	151	2341	15.5	12	97	80	3.1	48.8	46.2%	7.2	11	85	0	3	21	7.7	1.8	0.2	162	15.0	2426	12	4	17
1 yr		NWE			3	2	20	7	67	9.6	0	3	19	2.3	22.3	35.0%	3.4									7	9.6	67	0	0	1
1 yr		WAS			10	4	38	12	173	14.4	0	9	62	1.2	17.3	31.6%	4.6									12	14.4	173	0	0
1995	24	SEA	WR	84	16	16	133	67	1039	15.5	7	42	59	4.2	64.9	50.4%	7.8	11	154	1	4	86	14.0	9.6	0.7	78	15.3	1193	8	1	12
1996	25	SEA	WR	84	16	16	121	57	987	17.3	7	40	65	3.6	61.7	47.1%	8.2	15	127	0	6	51	8.5	7.9	0.9	72	15.5	1114	7	2	11
1997	26	SEA	WR	84	15	15	147	72	1049	14.6	12	55	53	4.8	69.9	49.0%	7.1	9	72	0	1	44	8.0	4.8	0.6	81	13.8	1121	12	1	10
1998	27	SEA	WR	84	16	16	132	65	1047	16.1	10	46	81	4.1	65.4	49.2%	7.9	9	26	0	1	14	2.9	1.6	0.6	74	14.5	1073	10	1	12
1999	28	SEA		84	8	4	52	22	335	15.2	1	17	48	2.8	41.9	42.3%	6.4	1	-1	0	0	-1	-1.0	-0.1	0.1	23	14.5	334	1	0	3
2000	29	DAL		84	1	1	12	4	62	15.5	1	4	22	4.0	62.0	33.3%	5.2									4	15.5	62	1	0	1
2001	30	DAL	WR	84	16	16	112	52	699	13.4	3	33	47	3.3	43.7	46.4%	6.2	3	32	0	2	16	10.7	2.0	0.2	55	13.3	731	3	1	6
2002	31	DAL	WR	84	16	16	120	61	908	14.9	6	33	80	3.8	56.8	50.8%	7.6	4	31	0	1	21	7.8	1.9	0.3	65	14.4	939	6	2	5
2003	32	DAL	WR	84	15	13	83	34	672	19.8	2	27	64	2.3	44.8	41.0%	8.1	4	22	0	0	10	5.5	1.5	0.3	38	18.3	694	2	1	5
2004	33	TAM	WR	84	10	7	53	33	416	12.6	5	25	36	3.3	41.6	62.3%	7.8	2	19	0	1	14	9.5	1.9	0.2	35	12.4	435	5	3	4
2005	34	TAM	WR	84	16	16	152	83	1287	15.5	10	56	80	5.2	80.4	54.6%	8.5	2	4	0	0	4	2.0	0.3	0.1	85	15.2	1291	10	0	11
2006	35	TAM	WR	84	16	14	143	62	1057	17.0	7	44	64	3.9	66.1	43.4%	7.4	2	9	0	0	7	4.5	0.6	0.1	64	16.7	1066	7	0	7
2007	36	TAM	WR	84	15	15	98	57	1014	17.8	6	37	69	3.8	67.6	58.2%	10.3	1	1	0	0	1	1.0	0.1	0.1	58	17.5	1015	6	0	9
2008	37	TAM		84	9	4	28	13	138	10.6	0	6	22	1.4	15.3	46.4%	4.9									13	10.6	138	0	0	1
2009	38	NWE		13	3	2	20	7	67	9.6	0	3	19	2.3	22.3	35.0%	3.4									7	9.6	67	0	0	1
2010	39	WAS		84	10	4	38	12	173	14.4	0	9	62	1.2	17.3	31.6%	4.6									12	14.4	173	0	0	1

 

Great measurables despite his smaller stature (Joey was 5'11) and production to match it.

https://fansided.com/2015/02/18/15-fastest-40-times-nfl-history/?scrlybrkr=8aeae651

 

Quote

 

4.18

Joey Galloway (Ohio State) ripped off a blazing 4.18 back in 1995. The Ohio native played 16 seasons in the NFL for five different franchises. His speed made him a dangerous deep-threat during his tenure in the league. He finished with 77 touchdown catches and 15.6 yards per reception over the course of his career.

Apparently, he can still fly.

Former Ohio State quarterback and ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit tweeted out in July of 2014 that Galloway posted a 4.29 on grass at the age of 42.

 

 

 

[QBIso]

Galloway is a good comp. I dig it. I think his speed is actually better than Ruggs despite the reports that Ruggs was definitely the fastest. Waddle has more wiggle and seems to be more of a “cya” guy in space. Ruggs had better hands and ball tracking tho. 

[mse326]

On 12/3/2020 at 3:45 PM, QBIso said:

Galloway is a good comp. I dig it. I think his speed is actually better than Ruggs despite the reports that Ruggs was definitely the fastest. Waddle has more wiggle and seems to be more of a “cya” guy in space. Ruggs had better hands and ball tracking tho. 

Ruggs looks like he has more straight line speed so go routes and skinny posts he was better than Waddle. Waddle seems to be able to keep his top speed more with double moves, shakes, and more pronounced cuts. Both are blazing though

[jrry32]

On 11/22/2020 at 2:23 AM, jrry32 said:

For now:

Kyle Trask = Nick Foles (Matt Ryan or Matt Schaub if he ends up in a really good spot)

(Foles shouldn't be seen as an insult. I think Trask can thrive in the right environment. He's just not a guy who will overcome his circumstances. He needs protection, and he needs dynamic playmakers.)

Kyle Pitts = Jimmy Graham (prime version)

(Originally, I thought Tony G., but Pitts is a better athlete, whereas Tony was more skilled. Like Jimmy Graham, Pitts is long, freakishly athletic, and seemingly catches everything you throw him, but he's not a good blocker. He's basically an oversized receiver.)

I've changed my mind on Trask. I think Matt Schaub is the best comparison. He has protected the football a lot better this year. Like Schaub, he's a massive guy with traits that are otherwise underwhelming (mediocre at best arm strength and no real mobility), but he's very smart, skilled, and precise.