MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 @Blue @Counselor this is the one I cannot vote in as I'm part of the F5s, correct? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: @Blue @Counselor this is the one I cannot vote in as I'm part of the F5s, correct? Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 5:26 PM, Ragnarok said: As usual, everything starts with the run for us and we are fully expecting OKC to stack the box to try to shut down Henry. We have several RBs active this week and plan to use them all. Our primary runners will be Henry and Jones, we will use Frank Gore in some short yardage (low pressure) situations to spell Henry and keep him fresh, we will use Jones both on inside and edge runs to keep Henry fresh. When Henry is on the field we will run him almost exclusively up the gut and an occasional Offtackle power rush. Duke Johnson will get a few rushes just to keep the defense guessing but he will be a part of our attack to neutralize run blitzes and stacked boxes via screen passes. We won't be afraid to use Henry on some screens and angle throws either. As per the norm with us we are going to attempt to dominate T.O.P. and wear down the opposing DL. Good luck running it up the gut with this trio On 11/15/2020 at 5:23 PM, Ragnarok said: DT Stephon Tuitt DT Akiem Hicks DT3 Sheldon Richardson I think that the F5s win this game, and to be honest, I'm not sure that it's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Good luck running it up the gut with this trio I think that the F5s win this game, and to be honest, I'm not sure that it's close. He has already ran it up the gut on 2/3 of those dudes. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: He has already ran it up the gut on 2/3 of those dudes. Just saying. vs. the Bears he had 21 rushes for 68 yards at 3.2 YPC and 0 TD vs. the Steelers he had 20 rushes for 75 yards at 3.8 YPC and a TD vs. the Browns TBD If you want to call those successful numbers then I respectfully disagree. Those are extremely subpar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, MWil23 said: vs. the Bears he had 21 rushes for 68 yards at 3.2 YPC and 0 TD vs. the Steelers he had 20 rushes for 75 yards at 3.8 YPC and a TD vs. the Browns TBD If you want to call those successful numbers then I respectfully disagree. Those are extremely subpar. Chicago's Defense features Kalil Mack & Roquan Smith two the better defensive LBs in the league. Let's be honest, thats where Henry's limits came from Pittsburgh's Dline is Elite, OKCs isnt. Edited November 18, 2020 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, wwhickok said: Fair, but Chicago's OL also sucks, Mine doesn't. What does Chicago's OL have to do with anything? Just now, wwhickok said: Pittsburgh's Dline is Elite, OKCs isnt. I'd put the OKC interior DL up against anyone else in this league. Given the gameplan was to "run it up the gut", that's into the teeth of our defense. If you wanted to run more heavy TE sets and/or edge blocks with a slot WR where we are weak on the perimeter in run support, then that would have given you a decisive edge. That gameplan lacked opposition scouting on the interior DL advantage that OKC has. Throw in White locking down the outside by himself and the S advantage that OKC has and gameplan provided by leaving White on an island and freeing up the safeties in support opposite, I think OKC has the advantage here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, wwhickok said: Fair, but Chicago's OL also sucks, Mine doesn't. Pittsburgh's Dline is Elite, OKCs isnt. What does Chicago’s oline have to do with it? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: What does Chicago’s oline have to do with it? Just curious. Nothing lol I meant I was just seeing if anyone would catch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: What does Chicago's OL have to do with anything? I'd put the OKC interior DL up against anyone else in this league. Given the gameplan was to "run it up the gut", that's into the teeth of our defense. If you wanted to run more heavy TE sets and/or edge blocks with a slot WR where we are weak on the perimeter in run support, then that would have given you a decisive edge. That gameplan lacked opposition scouting on the interior DL advantage that OKC has. Throw in White locking down the outside by himself and the S advantage that OKC has and gameplan provided by leaving White on an island and freeing up the safeties in support opposite, I think OKC has the advantage here. I disagree, and OKC isn't accidentally in 3rd place in the division. But hey, welcome to the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, wwhickok said: I disagree, and OKC isn't accidentally in 3rd place in the division. But hey, welcome to the division Me: Posts facts, stats, and schematic examples of why your gameplan has major holes, fallacies, and is overly simplistic and problematic You: But Chicago's OL, But Henry rushed all over two of them already (he didn't, as I proved), But those DL are elite and yours isn't even though you pointed out those 3 interior DT are elite. Also You: Trash Talk LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 5:23 PM, Ragnarok said: WILLIAMSPORT Offense QB: Ben Roethlisberger RB1: Derrick Henry X: Michael Gallup Z: Jalen Reagor Slot: David Moore TE: Dallas Goedert LT: Dion Dawkins LG: Cesar Ruiz C : J.C. Tretter RG: Mike Glowinski RT: DJ Humphries Bench QB: Taysom Hill RB2: Ronald Jones RB3: Frank Gore RB4: Duke Johnson WR4: Jalen Guyton WR5: Olamide Zaccheus WR: Allen Lazard - Gameplan Specific Role TE2: Robert Tonyan Defense LDE: Leonard Williams NT: Javon Hargrave RDE: Cam Heyward LOLB: Brian Burns LILB: Robert Spillaine RILB: Kwon Alexander ROLB: Shaquille Barrett CB1: Darius Slay CB2: Carlton Davis FS: Quandre Diggs SS: Adrian Phillips Bench NT: Tyson Alualu OLB: Kyler Fackrell LB: Jordyn Brooks ILB: Jerome Baker NCB: Trayvon Mullen CB4: Cam Sutton CB5: Troy Hill S: Jeremy Chinn THIS is a 7-1 roster? A pretty good QB, great RB, above average OL, AWFUL WR corps, and average defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: Me: Posts facts, stats, and schematic examples of why your gameplan has major holes, fallacies, and is overly simplistic and problematic You: But Chicago's OL, But Henry rushed all over two of them already (he didn't, as I proved), But those DL are elite and yours isn't even though you pointed out those 3 interior DT are elite. Also You: Trash Talk LOL I was kidding about the Chicago OL think. Obviously that's completely irrelevant. First of all, even if your DL slows Henry down, your offense doesn't any anywhere near enough fire power, even with Mahomes to keep up. You've got next to no running game at all. Your WRs and TEs are definitely not doing enough on a consistent basis to make up that difference. Your defense is gonna spend 75% of the game on the field, they're gonna get tired and eventually, Hicks, Tuitt, and Richardson are gonna be on the sidelines sucking oxygen. And your right, you got decent Safeties, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, MWil23 said: THIS is a 7-1 roster? A pretty good QB, great RB, above average OL, AWFUL WR corps, and average defense? Average defense.. haha that's cute. Also, Calvin Ridley most likely returns to my lineup this week, Lazard should also be returning soon. But yeah its a division winning roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Haha I'm onto your game. Trying to troll your way to votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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