KingTitan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, titans0021 said: We’re not starting Wilson. Kelly has been a bad LT in the past, you’re not going to make your RT worse in order to shift Kelly to LT where he will also be worse. Almost certainly going to be Quessenberry. Yeah they didn't seen Queessenberry out there for looks. Q is next man up at LT. Wilson is likely next man up (by default) at RT. So He is still on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, TitanRedd said: If it helps DK metcalf had low agility #s aside from the 40 😩 but for real though he wasn’t a bad pass protector in college he just got away with playing without technique which is why they label him raw but scouts said had he stayed in school & fixed that he could be a top 15 pick coming out. If he improved his mid-round level pass protection he could have been a dominant OT based on the size and strength we know he has, but that's projection based on him improving, which no one really knows if that will happen or not. His lack of agility and lateral movement suggest it's going to be hard for him to become a dominant pass protector. He's not some really big guy who's super athletic with good feet that just needed to improve his technique. DK Metcalf's first step on a pass play isn't likely going to be a lateral one. You can't compare them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, KingTitan said: I for one always hated drafting an OL high. Rather get a vet. But that's just me and partly because it's not exciting. lol But I didn't like Lewan as a pick and I HATED the Wilson pick. Lewan is frequently injured and coming off an ACL so i guess drafting an OT in the 1st is likely what we end up doing AGAIN. For insurance and maybe starting the RT. But it shouldn't be. An OT that can reliably pass-protect on the outside is very hard to find, so if you think you have one I am all for drafting them high. I'm not for drafting interior OL in the first round. I would rather not enter the draft and think "We MUST draft this position". I would rather continually draft the best player at a position of high value (QB/OT/WR/CB/Pass-rusher) and leave need as an afterthought to decide between those. Edited November 23, 2020 by TitanSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, TitanSS said: If he improved his mid-round level pass protection he could have been a dominant OT based on the size and strength we know he has, but that's projection based on him improving, which no one really knows if that will happen or not. His lack of agility and lateral movement suggest it's going to be hard for him to become a dominant pass protector. He's not some really big guy who's super athletic with good feet that just needed to improve his technique. DK Metcalf's first step on a pass play isn't likely going to be a lateral one. You can't compare them at all. I wasn’t really comparing them was just talking 😩 it was a joke to inspire hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, TitanSS said: An OT that can reliably pass-protect on the outside is very hard to find, so if you think you have one I am all for drafting them high. I'm not for drafting interior OL in the first round. I would rather not enter the draft and think "We MUST draft this position". I would rather continually draft the best player at a position of high value (QB/OT/WR/CB/Pass-rusher) and leave need as an afterthought to decide between those. Yeah. I get it. OT's that can protect are valuable. Just not fun for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Airness McNairness said: bad idea.. now you're weakening two positions.. we'll see how it goes, but its an option Kelly isn’t good a RT so it doesn’t matter. Do you want a fat out of shape raw rookie playing LT when he never has? Quessenberry likely starts but it’s only a matter of time that he gets exposed much like Sambrailo did when he doesn’t get massive amounts of help. Edited November 23, 2020 by ttitansfan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 They at least need to get Wilson’s feet wet on FG block or something. Hell, even swing OT lining up at TE at some point. He’s been practicing for what, a month now? Has to get some kind of NFL experience but at some point this year, you’ll have to rely on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: Kelly isn’t good a RT so it doesn’t matter. Do you want a fat out of shape raw rookie playing LT when he never has? Quessenberry likely starts but it’s only a matter of time that he gets exposed much like Sambrailo did when he doesn’t get massive amounts of help. The thing is, Sambrailo was and Quessenberry probably will be just as good, if not better, than Kelly was last year at LT. And that was when we had Conklin and could shift almost all help to the left side. Wilson isn’t playing. It’s a lost season for him. Q will probably be exposed, because of course he would be, but with all of the injuries, the last thing you want to do is start shifting around the healthy players and mess with whatever chemistry the line has left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airness McNairness Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, TitanRedd said: Agreed I’m not bout to praise him yet, our DB’s tend to look good playing against QB’s who struggle as passers. Need to see him do it against rivers or more competent throwers of the football he literally just looked pretty good against rivers two weeks ago lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, titans0021 said: The thing is, Sambrailo was and Quessenberry probably will be just as good, if not better, than Kelly was last year at LT. And that was when we had Conklin and could shift almost all help to the left side. Wilson isn’t playing. It’s a lost season for him. Q will probably be exposed, because of course he would be, but with all of the injuries, the last thing you want to do is start shifting around the healthy players and mess with whatever chemistry the line has left. you also hope to get saffold back to shore up that left side a little bit. at that point i really don't think there would be a meaningful difference between quessenberry and kelly at LT and like you said, you'd be weakening the right side by moving kelly. no point in doing it. the absolute best we can hope for from wilson is that he takes kelly's job next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airness McNairness Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, titans0021 said: The thing is, Sambrailo was and Quessenberry probably will be just as good, if not better, than Kelly was last year at LT. And that was when we had Conklin and could shift almost all help to the left side. Wilson isn’t playing. It’s a lost season for him. Q will probably be exposed, because of course he would be, but with all of the injuries, the last thing you want to do is start shifting around the healthy players and mess with whatever chemistry the line has left. dont agree with this... wilson has to play.. he has to be better than your 4th string LT.. if Q, is out there, the season might be over because Tanny's blind side is ruined. If yall thought tanny was sped up and playing lack luster because lewan was out, how bad do you think it will be with sambrailo out? if we sped up nate davis last year, and had an undrafted rookie, LG from texas state in there ready to play, no reason we can get wilson, a 1st round pick who played in the SEC for two years ready to go. we gotta flip kelly to LT, and get wilson in there.. we cant afford to get tanny hurt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airness McNairness Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: Kelly isn’t good a RT so it doesn’t matter. Do you want a fat out of shape raw rookie playing LT when he never has? Quessenberry likely starts but it’s only a matter of time that he gets exposed much like Sambrailo did when he doesn’t get massive amounts of help. kelly isnt good? he's good bro.. he aint great, but hes a starting RT in the league.. wilson is in shape and ready to go... i agree it just a matter of time that Q either gets exposed or gets tanny hurt.. maybe both and i dont like being pessimistic... wilson has to play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Airness McNairness said: kelly isnt good? he's good bro.. he aint great, but hes a starting RT in the league.. wilson is in shape and ready to go... i agree it just a matter of time that Q either gets exposed or gets tanny hurt.. maybe both and i dont like being pessimistic... wilson has to play... Your definition of good and mine must be completely different then.... He’s also someone who needs a ton of help. When Lewan went down, help had to go to the left side more and Kelly got exposed. He’s not terrible but he’s certainly not good. Just a below average player which is honestly and upgrade over Sambrailo and Quessenberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: Your definition of good and mine must be completely different then.... He’s also someone who needs a ton of help. When Lewan went down, help had to go to the left side more and Kelly got exposed. He’s not terrible but he’s certainly not good. Just a below average player which is honestly and upgrade over Sambrailo and Quessenberry. Below average is just not true at all. You're being way too harsh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airness McNairness Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: Your definition of good and mine must be completely different then.... He’s also someone who needs a ton of help. When Lewan went down, help had to go to the left side more and Kelly got exposed. He’s not terrible but he’s certainly not good. Just a below average player which is honestly and upgrade over Sambrailo and Quessenberry. what? he doesnt get much help from what ive seen. what is this "kelly got exposed" nonsense.. dude hasnt had a bad game that ive seen since tj watt ate his lunch a month ago.. if he wasnt good, he wouldnt be starting nor got a new, lucrative contract... dude rarely gets his named called during games... thats a good thing for an o lineman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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