BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, WindyCity said: I do not think it will, but #convcition. The more I look at the Bears' crappy financials for 2021, the more I like the idea of going OT in round 1 and then taking a swing on a QB in rd 2, or at least being able to understand the move. We probably won't be good in 21, so maybe go for high upside guy while biding your time and getting ready for 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Is that how much money Nagy and Pace have remaining on their contracts? If so I don't think it will matter much. NFL teams make that money back in no time. George has shown before that he will fire the GM or HC with money remaining on their deals. It happened with Lovie, it happened with Emery and Trestman and it happened with Fox. Don't be so naive to think it won't happen again even in a season with lower revenues. He always stresses how his mom Virginia wants to see another winner before she passes. so you'd have to think that he's going to try anything to give the team a better chance of that happening, even if it turns out to be a bad decision. There are no ticket sales. The money printing machine is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, RunningVaccs said: The more I look at the Bears' crappy financials for 2021, the more I like the idea of going OT in round 1 and then taking a swing on a QB in rd 2, or at least being able to understand the move. We probably won't be good in 21, so maybe go for high upside guy while biding your time and getting ready for 22 I wouldn’t mind this strategy. I feel like we are setting up the QB for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, 41st ward Chicagoian said: There are no ticket sales. The money printing machine is broken. They're still not losing money this year with all the TV contracts. Plus you don't think the organization has millions upon millions banked away from previous seasons? Fans and ticket sales will be back in 2021. This is not a concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, topwop1 said: They're still not losing money this year with all the TV contracts. Plus you don't think the organization has millions upon millions banked away from previous seasons? Fans and ticket sales will be back in 2021. This is not a concern. Nobody should ever worry about a billion dollar business making its money. They'll never run out of money... Ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: The more I look at the Bears' crappy financials for 2021, the more I like the idea of going OT in round 1 and then taking a swing on a QB in rd 2, or at least being able to understand the move. We probably won't be good in 21, so maybe go for high upside guy while biding your time and getting ready for 22 That would be fine if we had a GM and HC who are not desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Lame duck years do exponential damage to teams. The players have no fear of coaches, coaches do not give max effort, development goes in reverse, bad habits develop, losing/bad attitude germinates in locker room and doesn’t leave. Always better to move a year early than a year late on a player or a coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 hours ago, dll2000 said: Lame duck years do exponential damage to teams. The players have no fear of coaches, coaches do not give max effort, development goes in reverse, bad habits develop, losing/bad attitude germinates in locker room and doesn’t leave. Always better to move a year early than a year late on a player or a coach. Yep this applies to a GM too in that he will probably do anything and everything to make sure the team has a chance to compete in the short term without much regard for future assets or cap space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Yep this applies to a GM too in that he will probably do anything and everything to make sure the team has a chance to compete in the short term without much regard for future assets or cap space. You saw this with Bill O'Brien who put the Texans in an abysmal situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, abstract_thought said: You saw this with Bill O'Brien who put the Texans in an abysmal situation. Yep and he made like the worst trade in NFL history too. Houston messed up by letting that guy have full and autonomous control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, topwop1 said: Yep and he made like the worst trade in NFL history too. Houston messed up by letting that guy have full and autonomous control. Shows how dumb most of these organizations are. The people who run football teams are probably not the smartest people in the world. I'm sure the Ravens organization just laughs at the decisions other teams make. It's like playing poker with a bunch of drunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) On 11/18/2020 at 12:27 PM, RunningVaccs said: The more I look at the Bears' crappy financials for 2021, the more I like the idea of going OT in round 1 and then taking a swing on a QB in rd 2, or at least being able to understand the move. We probably won't be good in 21, so maybe go for high upside guy while biding your time and getting ready for 22 The problem with that strategy is that if you fix the OL and hope for a QB later, the team won't be anywhere near as bad by the next draft, and you've made the qb hunt that much harder /the trade up that much harder. I'd argue that with a solid Oline, we would have a functional run game, at least 3 more wins, and STILL be no closer to winning a super bowl with our qbs, because we'd still be sitting under 21 points a game and wouldn't be able to match up. Imo ALWAYS go for/ grab the qb if you can, fill in the rest after. In our specific case, however, we will have to basically punt the entire draft towards desperation /need, because I actually agree that our current line would get a QB killed.... I just don't think we can skip the qb either. Personally I'm expecting to spend much of NEXT YEAR'S picks this year as well... We need the capital to move ourselves up for a QB, and then the capital to come back and grab multiple starting OL so the poor kid doesn't die. It's a terrible situation to be in, and we're almost assuredly going to have to pass up "better" talent at other positions, but we have to play the hand we have (I would say the hand we've been dealt, but our hand is of our own making by years of mismanagement and poor decisions) Edited November 19, 2020 by Epyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Epyon said: The problem with that strategy is that if you fix the OL and hope for a QB later, the team won't be anywhere near as bad by the next draft, and you've made the qb hunt that much harder /the trade up that much harder. I'd argue that with a solid Oline, we would have a functional run game, at least 3 more wins, and STILL be no closer to winning a super bowl with our qbs, because we'd still be sitting under 21 points a game and wouldn't be able to match up. Imo ALWAYS go for/ grab the qb if you can, fill in the rest after. In our specific case, however, we will have to basically punt the entire draft towards desperation /need, because I actually agree that our current line would get a QB killed.... I just don't think we can skip the qb either. Personally I'm expecting to spend much of NEXT YEAR'S picks this year as well... We need the capital to move ourselves up for a QB, and then the capital to come back and grab multiple starting OL so the poor kid doesn't die. It's a terrible situation to be in, and we're almost assuredly going to have to pass up "better" talent at other positions, but we have to play the hand we have (I would say the hand we've been dealt, but our hand is of our own making by years of mismanagement and poor decisions) Well said man. If a QB is worth it then you can always plug in pieces around him, even after he gets a big deal. But you can't just plug and play QBs the same way. Invest whenever you can there and never get bogged down by overpaying for mediocre talent at QB. It doesn't take 4 years to see if the QB is the guy in but a few instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 10:05 AM, WindyCity said: Draft Only ONE CB? Pffft. C'mon, man... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Heinz D. said: Only ONE CB? Pffft. C'mon, man... I was thinking about taking 2 CBs and 3 RBs and 2 Cs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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