Humble_Beast Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 You think Arnette could be a coverage FS. A lot of solid CB in our draft range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManWillis Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/28/2020 at 9:28 PM, Humble_Beast said: You think Arnette could be a coverage FS. A lot of solid CB in our draft range Dude no lol. Leave Arnette and let him develop. A coach that plays him and Mullen to their strength will do wonders. Fix the line and the secondary will look better. If you want a FS then grab the one from TCU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Jaycee Horn been getting mocked with Raiders... guy is a 🐶... a lot better prospect then Arnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The thought of taking another corner in round 1 is annoying to me. Sign a vet and let guys develop. Invest elsewhere on defense in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, big_palooka said: The thought of taking another corner in round 1 is annoying to me. Sign a vet and let guys develop. Invest elsewhere on defense in the draft. This, last thing the secondary needs is a young player learning to play in the NFL, we need some leadership in the back end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Has Ruggs made a single guy miss with the ball in his hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Also, as it relates to the CB question, you dont fall for the sunk cost fallacy. Who cares if we spent picks on corners? If the corners we have aren't getting it done, you can still try drafting to replace. I still think edge rush is the biggest need, but that has to be balanced with BPA. I don't really look into the draft pool until post-combine usually, so I cant comment on guys in the middle of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Turnobili said: Has Ruggs made a single guy miss with the ball in his hands? He's rarely had opportunities. Couple end arounds. Most his routes are deep. They are not scheming to get him the ball in space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Turnobili said: Also, as it relates to the CB question, you dont fall for the sunk cost fallacy. Who cares if we spent picks on corners? If the corners we have aren't getting it done, you can still try drafting to replace. I still think edge rush is the biggest need, but that has to be balanced with BPA. I don't really look into the draft pool until post-combine usually, so I cant comment on guys in the middle of the first round. If there is a top flight corner on the board and he's the obvious best player, then sure. I just want to see them draft players with some star potential vs. trying to hit singles in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdigtheRaiders! Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: He's rarely had opportunities. Couple end arounds. Most his routes are deep. They are not scheming to get him the ball in space. Taking into account 1) The negative impact COVID had on the offseason/training camp/preseason, and 2) The fact that rookie WRs don't usually grasp Gruden's offense until Year 2 at the earliest I can understand if the strategy was to use Ruggs primarily as a decoy and/or deep threat this season and expect more from him next season once he's had a full season/OTAs/Training Camp/Preseason under his belt to get acclimated to Carr and the offense. If that wasn't the primary strategy for this season, then they failed to use him adequately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdigtheRaiders! Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 hours ago, big_palooka said: The thought of taking another corner in round 1 is annoying to me. Sign a vet and let guys develop. Invest elsewhere on defense in the draft. Totally agree. My personal opinion on our draft strategy should be going for Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in the 1st and Best Available D-Line prospect in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Side note: Don't see this happening at all, but what about taking Owusu-Koramoah in the 1st and trading our 2nd and 3rd to Minnesota for Harrison Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Totally agree. My personal opinion on our draft strategy should be going for Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in the 1st and Best Available D-Line prospect in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Side note: Don't see this happening at all, but what about taking Owusu-Koramoah in the 1st and trading our 2nd and 3rd to Minnesota for Harrison Smith? Tad too rich. 2021 is a contract year for Smith. I wouldn't want to give up 2 day 2 picks for someone who might walk at the end of the year. At that point, we're genuinely better throwing top S money at Maye or Simmons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Taking into account 1) The negative impact COVID had on the offseason/training camp/preseason, and 2) The fact that rookie WRs don't usually grasp Gruden's offense until Year 2 at the earliest I can understand if the strategy was to use Ruggs primarily as a decoy and/or deep threat this season and expect more from him next season once he's had a full season/OTAs/Training Camp/Preseason under his belt to get acclimated to Carr and the offense. If that wasn't the primary strategy for this season, then they failed to use him adequately. They failed. He was a good decoy, but you need to give your young players a chance to do what they do well. Where were the catch and run plays at the very least for this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: They failed. He was a good decoy, but you need to give your young players a chance to do what they do well. Where were the catch and run plays at the very least for this guy? Being given as charity to Jason Witten, for one lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Being given as charity to Jason Witten, for one lol I think my YAC is better than Jason Witten. And that's saying something because my knees have been surgically put back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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