NYRaider Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 Also if you're going to use the "he's just a winner" argument for Suggs, you can't ignore the fact that Gonzaga was 31-2 the previous season with Ryan Woolridge starting at PG putting up almost identical production to Suggs. @Kirill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) NYRaider Final 2021 NBA Draft Big Board 1. Jalen Green | SG | G-League Ignite 2. Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State 3. Evan Mobley | FC | USC 4. Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State 5. Jonathan Kuminga | F | G-League Ignite 6. Jalen Suggs | PG | Gonzaga 7. Keon Johnson | GF | Tennessee 8. Josh Giddey | GF | Australia 9. Moses Moody | GF | Arkansas 10. James Bouknight | SG | UConn 11. Ziaire Williams | GF | Stanford 12. Kai Jones | FC | Texas 13. Alperen Sengun | FC | Turkey 14. Davion Mitchell | PG | Baylor 15. Tre Mann | CG | Florida 16. Trey Murphy | GF | Virginia 17. Usman Garuba | FC | Spain 18. Chris Duarte | GF | Oregon 19. Jaden Springer | CG | Tennessee 20. Corey Kispert | GF | Gonzaga 21. Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 22. Jalen Johnson | F | Duke 23. Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn 24. Jared Butler | CG | Baylor 25. Cam Thomas | CG | LSU 26. Bones Hyland | CG | VCU 27. JT Thor | F | Auburn 28. Joshua Christopher | SG | Arizona State 29. Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia 30. Ayo Dosunmu | CG | Illinois Edited July 25, 2021 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) Guys that just missed the cut for my top 30 include Franz Wagner, Joe Wieskamp, Herbert Jones, Isaiah Todd, Joshua Primo, and Brandon Boston Jr. Edited July 25, 2021 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Like @beekay414 I really just cannot see why people are projecting Franz Wagner as a lottery pick. I legit don't even have a first round grade on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Like @beekay414 I really just cannot see why people are projecting Franz Wagner as a lottery pick. I legit don't even have a first round grade on him. he is the most overrated prospects in the draft thats projected to go lottery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Also with @Kirill's he's a winner argument it's interesting to see that when you look back at teams that either won the title or made it to the title game, very few of those teams produced pros that went on to become great NBA players. Over the last decade the only All-Star players that have been in a title game while in college and then went on to become an All-Star in the NBA are Anthony Davis, Julius Randle, Gordon Hayward, and Kemba Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: he is the most overrated prospects in the draft thats projected to go lottery. Dude's ceiling is Chandler Parsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Kuminga over Suggs bruh put down the crackpipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Dude's ceiling is Chandler Parsons. he reminds me Sam Dekker for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 How do the Thunder get Mobley to go along with SGA, Dort and Poku? #6, #16, 24’ Houston 1st to Cleveland for #3… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 https://www.inquisitr.com/6494230/proposed-trade-would-send-christian-wood-eric-gordon-to-warriors In the proposed trade scenario, the Warriors would be sending a package that includes James Wiseman, Kelly Oubre Jr., and the No. 14 overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft to the Rockets in exchange for Wood and Eric Gordon. Before they could push through with the trade, the Warriors would first need to convince Oubre Jr. to agree to a sign-and-trade deal to Houston. The heck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: How do the Thunder get Mobley to go along with SGA, Dort and Poku? #6, #16, 24’ Houston 1st to Cleveland for #3… The Thunder would definitely have to take back Love's deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: https://www.inquisitr.com/6494230/proposed-trade-would-send-christian-wood-eric-gordon-to-warriors In the proposed trade scenario, the Warriors would be sending a package that includes James Wiseman, Kelly Oubre Jr., and the No. 14 overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft to the Rockets in exchange for Wood and Eric Gordon. Before they could push through with the trade, the Warriors would first need to convince Oubre Jr. to agree to a sign-and-trade deal to Houston. The heck? The best the Warriors can do with Wiseman, Oubre Jr, and #14 is Gordon/Wood? I'd love the move for Houston though. They'd be adding Wiseman who is a similar, but not as good, prospect to Mobley plus an additional lottery pick. If this deal were to go through I think the best case scenario for the Rockets would be landing Green at #2, Giddey at #14, then target guys like Trey Murphy and Miles McBride with their other 2 first round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: The best the Warriors can do with Wiseman, Oubre Jr, and #14 is Gordon/Wood? I'd love the move for Houston though. They'd be adding Wiseman who is a similar, but not as good, prospect to Mobley plus an additional lottery pick. If this deal were to go through I think the best case scenario for the Rockets would be landing Green at #2, Giddey at #14, then target guys like Trey Murphy and Miles McBride with their other 2 first round picks. if that trade was made i would try and package 14 and one of the late 1sts to move in the top 10 and target Jalen Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Kirill said: Kuminga over Suggs bruh put down the crackpipe The draft is about projection. What can a player become, not what a player currently is today. I think the 2017 draft class is a perfect example of this. Read Lonzo Ball's scouting reports, they're almost identical to what people are saying about Jalen Suggs. He went #2 overall, people weren't very high on Donovan Mitchell who was seen as a chucker but had elite physical tools. If you could go back now do you think any team takes Lonzo over Mitchell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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