NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: it was a couple months after not being a very good college offensive player lol If the best G-League team played Baylor, who do you think wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 When Cade committed to Oklahoma State he went there thinking they were ineligible for the post-season because an assistant went to prison for paying recruits so they received a 1 year ban. The program worked their magic and postponed the ban until next year. Definitely strikes me as a guy that's all about winning, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: If the best G-League team played Baylor, who do you think wins? if a team with Durant, Tatum, Lillard, Bam, etc played a team whose best player was gabe vincent, or patty mills, or evan fournier who do you think would win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Oklahoma State really went from an 18 win team with a 107.2 ORtg to a 21 win team with a 109.6 ORtg with the next LeBron James on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, 11sanchez11 said: if a team with Durant, Tatum, Lillard, Bam, etc played a team whose best player was gabe vincent, or patty mills, or evan fournier who do you think would win? Comparing Olympic basketball teams to the G-League vs NCAA is comparing apples to oranges. Like 80% of Baylor's roster isn't even good enough to even make it to the G-League. And you do realize that like 54% of players on NBA rosters this year spent time in the G-League at some point, right lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: Comparing Olympic basketball teams to the G-League vs NCAA is comparing apples to oranges. Like 80% of Baylor's roster isn't even good enough to even make it to the G-League. And you do realize that like 54% of players on NBA rosters this year spent time in the G-League at some point, right lol. my point is that playing organized, actual basketball matters. the gl is barely basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: my point is that playing organized, actual basketball matters. the gl is barely basketball This years G-League was weird because of the bubble they typically have a 42 game season, playoffs, etc. And how organized was college basketball this season? Oklahoma State played like 5 non-conference opponents before the tournament with no fans, no kids on campus, and under the impression the season could be stopped at any time. Followed by an NCAA tournament in a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, NYRaider said: When Cade committed to Oklahoma State he went there thinking they were ineligible for the post-season because an assistant went to prison for paying recruits so they received a 1 year ban. The program worked their magic and postponed the ban until next year. Definitely strikes me as a guy that's all about winning, 100%. this is wait for it untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Something interesting I noticed about former #1 picks since the one-n-done rule was implemented. Essentially every single #1 pick that went on to become an All-Star and stick with the team that drafted them as a building block, with the exception of Ben Simmons, who is likely out of Philly this off-season, led their team to success in terms of winning while they were there. So it's almost as if a guy is as good as advertised he should elevate a college program. 2007: Greg Oden (35-4, Natty runner up) - Career derailed by injuries 2008: Derrick Rose (38-2, Natty runner up) - Former league MVP 2009: Blake Griffin (30-8, Elite 8) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA 2010: John Wall (35-3, Elite 8) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA 2011: Kyrie Irving (32-5, Sweet 16) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA 2012: Anthony Davis (38-2, NC) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA 2013: Anthony Bennett (25-10, missed tourney) - Complete bust 2014: Andrew Wiggins (25-10, 2nd round) - Meh career 2015: Karl Anthony-Towns (38-1, Final 4) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA 2016: Ben Simmons (19-14, missed tourney) - Multiple time All-Star/All-NBA (but getting traded) 2017: Markelle Fultz (8-22, missed tourney) - Bust 2018: DeAndre Ayton (27-8, 1st round) - So/so career thus far 2019: Zion Williamson (32-6, Elite 8) - Already an All-Star 2020: Anthony Edwards (16-16, missed tourney) - Meh rookie season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, catcheryea said: this is wait for it untrue Ugh... https://apnews.com/article/nba-basketball-oklahoma-cade-cunningham-oklahoma-state-cowboys-mens-basketball-78db387f98d16a14d01beb3b778c3541 Quote Cade Cunningham always figured he’d get a chance to play in the NCAA Tournament even after he enrolled at a school facing a postseason ban. Oklahoma State was sanctioned by the NCAA back in June stemming from a federal corruption investigation into college basketball. Those penalties included a one-year restriction from the postseason. Cunningham, the nation’s No. 1 overall recruit in his class, committed to Oklahoma State anyway, maintaining his faith that the postseason issue would work out in his favor. Playing for the Cowboys kept him within a four-hour drive of his 2-year-old daughter, Riley, in Texas. It also enabled him to join his older brother, Cannen, an assistant coach on Oklahoma State’s staff. https://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2020-06-22/oklahoma-states-cunningham-staying-despite-postseason-ban Quote Cunningham won the Naismith High School Trophy given to the nation’s best player. He is No. 1 in the Rivals and 247Sports recruiting rankings for his class and No. 2 in the ESPN 100. The 6-foot-7 point guard was the key piece of a highly ranked class that gave fans hope that Oklahoma State would return to its past success. Earlier this month, an NCAA infractions committee panel handed down numerous penalties related to findings that former assistant coach Lamont Evans accepted up to $22,000 in bribes intended to help steer athletes to certain financial advisers. Oklahoma State is appealing. Many wondered what Cunningham, a one-and-done prospect, would do. He made his announcement in a video he posted to social media on Monday. Edited July 27, 2021 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Winning was definitely Cade's top priority choosing Oklahoma State. @catcheryea Quote Oklahoma State made a significant move in the basketball recruiting world on Tuesday, hiring the older brother of No. 2-ranked rising senior Cade Cunningham as its new assistant coach. Cannen Cunningham, 26, played at SMU from 2011-15, and spent last season at Tulane as the associate director of video operations under Mike Dunleavy Sr. Quote At $200,000 a year, Oklahoma State appears to have gotten a pretty good bargain in assistant basketball coach Cannen Cunningham. He’s already delivered big-time on the recruiting front. On Tuesday night, his younger brother Cade Cunningham committed to Oklahoma State over Kentucky and other elite basketball schools. Cade Cunningham is a 6-foot-7 point guard ranked No. 2 in 2020 by 247Sports.com. He is also the projected No. 1 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft, per ESPN.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Being an associate director of video operations at Tulane pays like $18/hr. With one year of experience in that position for a team that went 4-27, it makes perfect sense that he was hired as one of Oklahoma State's top assistants with a $200k/year salary. It was in the best interest in winning. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 november 5, 2019 cade commits november 13, 2019 he signs his loi https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Cunningham-46047476/TimelineEvents/ (7 months later) june 5, 2020 fraudulent ncaa announces osu is ineligible https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29271617/oklahoma-state-given-1-year-ncaa-tournament-ban at this point his options are honor his commitment and go to osu anyway, knowing they are going to appeal the ban and the ncaa often takes literally years to hear these appeals hope that osu will let him dip out on his loi (not going to happen) and hope another top program has a scholarship for him (unlikely, but possible) go to the g league or overseas (hard to win an ncaa championship in australia) i don't believe in time but from my understanding it's hard to make a decision right now based on what's happening next february 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Quote “Cade Cunningham, his brand, his ability to take advantage of that on the market is through the roof. And he was in Oklahoma. Oklahoma State, a great program, and they’re in Stillwater, Oklahoma, and that happened for him. You think about Kentucky and what that means if that guy comes here.” - John Calipari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, catcheryea said: november 5, 2019 cade commits november 13, 2019 he signs his loi https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Cunningham-46047476/TimelineEvents/ (7 months later) june 5, 2020 fraudulent ncaa announces osu is ineligible https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29271617/oklahoma-state-given-1-year-ncaa-tournament-ban at this point his options are honor his commitment and go to osu anyway, knowing they are going to appeal the ban and the ncaa often takes literally years to hear these appeals hope that osu will let him dip out on his loi (not going to happen) and hope another top program has a scholarship for him (unlikely, but possible) go to the g league or overseas (hard to win an ncaa championship in australia) i don't believe in time but from my understanding it's hard to make a decision right now based on what's happening next february Other Oklahoma State players transferred out and were immediately eligible to play. IIRC that's an NCAA rule, if the school you're at receives a post-season ban you can immediately get out of your LOI or transfer and play elsewhere that year. He could've easily transferred to Kentucky, Duke, UNC or any other big program. And it was well known throughout his recruiting process that he was headed to Oklahoma State because they hired his brother. They legit funneled $400k to his brother so they could land him. Before he got the job at OK State he was working as a video coordinator making $18/hr and before that he was the head coach of a random middle school team in Texas. Either way if being close to his daughter was the main reason he went to Oklahoma State as was implied. Why didn't he go to Baylor? Which is 2 hours closer to Arlington where she lives to play for a program that was 26-4 the year before (finished ranked #5) and was started this season #2 in the country. Oh that's right, because winning wasn't a priority for him. Making sure the checks cleared was his main priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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