brownie man Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: If the Thunder were willing to make that trade I'd take that in a heart beat if I'm Cleveland. The fact we can get out of Loves contract would be amazing. if Kuminga is there at 6 I’m definitely doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Assuming Memphis stands pat at #10/#40 I think the two most ideal outcomes would be: #10: Moses Moody / #40: Josh Christopher #10: Keon Johnson / #40: Joe Wieskamp @seminoles1 How is Moody at creating? If he's BPA then I guess I'm on board, but I feel he'd be redundant with Brooks and Bane since I mostly have seen him listed as a 3&D. Think I'd rather swing on Ziaire than Moses if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, brownie man said: The fact we can get out of Loves contract would be amazing. if Kuminga is there at 6 I’m definitely doing that. Plus I think SGA is a better fit next to Garland because he's a bigger guard that can defend 2/3s. In that scenario if you were then able to land Kuminga at #6, you'd have a very solid young core. Garland - SGA - Okoro - Kuminga - Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: If the Thunder were willing to make that trade I'd take that in a heart beat if I'm Cleveland. Ever think of starting your own thread? You've posted 9x more than the 2nd most person in this thread lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, seminoles1 said: How is Moody at creating? If he's BPA then I guess I'm on board, but I feel he'd be redundant with Brooks and Bane since I mostly have seen him listed as a 3&D. Think I'd rather swing on Ziaire than Moses if that's the case. I think Moody's upside is a Khris Middleton type of player. He's 2 years younger than Bouknight and their numbers were pretty similar despite Moody being viewed as a non playmaker. In isolation: Moody (6/19 FG) | Bouknight (7/20 FG) As a p-n-r ball handler: Moody (12/21) | Bouknight (18/49) Catch & Shoot: Moody (48/133) | Bouknight (8/37) Shots off the bounce: Moody (24/62) | Bouknight (21/63) While both guys averaged like 1.7 apg. Moody is also 6'6" 210 with a 7'1" wingspan and plays defense. Bouknight is 6'4.5" with a 6'8" wingspan and was inconsistent defensively. If you're going to take a swing on a raw prospect I think Keon Johnson is way safer than Ziarie Williams, I see a ton of Cam Reddish in Ziarie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Ever think of starting your own thread? You've posted 9x more than the 2nd most person in this thread lol I love college basketball and the NBA draft. If you don't want to read it, you don't have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I love college basketball and the NBA draft. If you don't want to read it, you don't have too. I think you could have your own thread bro. You’ve got good opinions and you definitely care about ball. A few guys have their own in the NFL draft thread. I definitely think there’s room for one in basketball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, brownie man said: I think you could have your own thread bro. You’ve got good opinions and you definitely care about ball. A few guys have their own in the NFL draft thread. I definitely think there’s room for one in basketball. That's a stretch @NYRaider 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, brownie man said: I think you could have your own thread bro. You’ve got good opinions and you definitely care about ball. A few guys have their own in the NFL draft thread. I definitely think there’s room for one in basketball. I agree, but I just don't think there's enough discussion in the Basketball forum for two separate NBA Draft threads. This is essentially already his thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: That's a stretch @NYRaider 😉 I'm not Steph Curry but I ain't Ben Simmons either, sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, seminoles1 said: I agree, but I just don't think there's enough discussion in the Basketball forum for two separate NBA Draft threads. This is essentially already his thread. Let them know. But yeah, if you guys are swinging for the fences at #10, I think it has to be Keon Johnson. If he develops, him and Morant would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I think Moody's upside is a Khris Middleton type of player. He's 2 years younger than Bouknight and their numbers were pretty similar despite Moody being viewed as a non playmaker. In isolation: Moody (6/19 FG) | Bouknight (7/20 FG) As a p-n-r ball handler: Moody (12/21) | Bouknight (18/49) Catch & Shoot: Moody (48/133) | Bouknight (8/37) Shots off the bounce: Moody (24/62) | Bouknight (21/63) While both guys averaged like 1.7 apg. Moody is also 6'6" 210 with a 7'1" wingspan and plays defense. Bouknight is 6'4.5" with a 6'8" wingspan and was inconsistent defensively. If you're going to take a swing on a raw prospect I think Keon Johnson is way safer than Ziarie Williams, I see a ton of Cam Reddish in Ziarie. I mean, I know the numbers. But you can't watch both of them and tell me Moody is going to be the offensive player Bouknight is and can be. I agree about Keon. He's got youth on his side like Moody but has shown more ability and potential to be a creator. I'd be more than fine with Keon at #10, but I think I'd rather swing on Ziaire than take Moody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, seminoles1 said: I mean, I know the numbers. But you can't watch both of them and tell me Moody is going to be the offensive player Bouknight is and can be. I agree about Keon. He's got youth on his side like Moody but has shown more ability and potential to be a creator. I'd be more than fine with Keon at #10, but I think I'd rather swing on Ziaire than take Moody. Bouknight is better off the bounce right now but he's also 2 years older. I think Middleton is what Moody could become in a best case scenario. Keon has the potential to be one of the best players from this draft, dude is an athletic freak. Needs to work on his handle/jumper but I'd personally take him over Moody or Bouknight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I love college basketball and the NBA draft. If you don't want to read it, you don't have too. No no, I don't. Just tough to find the other opinions/conversations in the thread. Love the passion though, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) NYRaider Final Mock Draft 1. Detroit: Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State 2. Houston: Jalen Green | SG | G-League 3. Cleveland: Evan Mobley | FC | USC 4. Toronto: Jalen Suggs | PG | Gonzaga 5. Orlando: Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State 6. Oklahoma City: James Bouknight | SG | UConn 7. Golden State: Jonathan Kuminga | F | G-League 8. Orlando: Alperen Sengun | C | Turkey 9. Sacramento: Franz Wagner | F | Michigan 10. Memphis: Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee 11. Charlotte: Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas 12. San Antonio: Kai Jones | FC | Texas 13. Indiana: Josh Giddey | GF | Australia 14. Golden State: Davion Mitchell | PG | Baylor 15. Washington: Corey Kispert | GF | Gonzaga 16. Oklahoma City: Ziarie Williams | GF | Stanford 17. New Orleans: Trey Murphy | GF | Virginia 18. Oklahoma City: Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 19. New York: Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon 20. Atlanta: Tre Mann | CG | Florida 21. New York: Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia 22. LA Lakers: Jared Butler | CG | Baylor 23. Houston: Jalen Johnson | F | Duke 24. Houston: Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn 25. LA Clippers: Usman Gabaru | FC | Spain 26. Denver: Jaden Springer | CG | Tennessee 27. Brooklyn: Cam Thomas | CG | LSU 28. Philadelphia: Josh Primo | SG | Alabama 29. Phoenix: Bones Hyland | CG | VCU 30. Utah: JT Thor | F | Auburn Edited July 28, 2021 by NYRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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