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5 hours ago, TitanSlim said:

Ok, as a Zion Williamson stan I’ve been trying to figure out who’s the best fit of the top guys if the Pelicans jump into the top 4. I think I’d have it (outside of Cunningham)….

1. Mobley-The ideal big man beside Zion if he truly becomes AD/Chris Bosh lite

2. Green-Blasphemous to say but him and Zion 2020s, homeless man down the block version of Kobe/Shaq???

3. Suggs-I know they have NAW and Kira Lewis but man I love Suggs. A cool headed, high IQ floor general is always of high value. If Lonzo  stays things change here but I think he’s gone.

4a/4b. Kumingha/Barnes-The Pelicans have needed a wing defender forever. Both would fit that need while having the upside of being more than just a “wing defender”.

That’s my list but I defer to the draft guys here and Pelicans fans when it comes to this.

Probably won't jump into the top 4 but assuming you let Lonzo walk in free agency I think Davion Mitchell would be a great pick. 

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Houston, Minnesota, and Orlando have so much riding on the lottery. Houston could lose their pick potentially, Minnesota could keep/lose their pick, and the Magic could lose the Bulls pick. 

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On 6/9/2021 at 12:28 PM, beekay414 said:

I may or may not get much into this draft but, without a first round Bucks pick, it's hard for me to care. Plus, we likely trade that Houston 2nd, even though we shouldn't.

I feel that it's hard to really care about the draft unless your team has a high pick. Unless the Nuggets gift you superstars for free like they've done with us.

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On 6/10/2021 at 6:46 AM, Texansfan713 said:

Mobley with Zion would be unfair.  Mobley could hide Zion's bad defense with his ability to be an elite rim protecting big man. 

Yeah Mobley with Zion would be nice, especially if he continues to improve as a 3 point shooter, they need as much spacing around BI/Zion as possible. If their pick is in the 10-14 range, Kai Jones would be a nice pick as well. 

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On 6/10/2021 at 4:38 AM, TitanSlim said:

If Lonzo  stays things change here but I think he’s gone.

Yeah, I could see New York, Dallas, and Chicago all trying to throw the bag at Lonzo in free agency. Tough to match a $20M+ APY offer sheet for him. 

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My "I have done no research yet and I'm really bored" full mock draft.

First Round
1. Houston - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State
2. Detroit - Evan Mobley | FC | USC
3. Orlando - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite
4. OKC - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga
5. Cleveland - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite
6. Golden State (via MIN) - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor
7. Toronto - Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State
8. Orlando (via CHI) - Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky
9. Sacramento - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee
10. New Orleans - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas
11. Charlotte - Kai Jones | FC | Texas
12. San Antonio - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas
13. Indiana - James Bouknight | SG | UConn
14. Golden State - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga
15. Washington - Jalen Johnson | SF | Duke
16. Boston - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor
17. Memphis - Cameron Thomas | SG | LSU
18. OKC (via MIA) - Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan
19. New York - Ziaire Williams | SF | Stanford
20. Atlanta - Jaden Springer | PG | Tennessee
21. New York (via DAL) - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky
22. LA Lakers - Josh Giddey | G | Adelaide
23. Houston (via POR) - Usman Garuba | FC | Real Madrid
24. Houston (via MKE) - Josh Christopher | GF | Arizona State
25. LA Clippers - Tre Mann | PG | Florida
26. Denver - Ayo Dosunmu | G | Illinois
27. Brooklyn - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina
28. Philadelphia - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon
29. Phoenix - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn
30. Utah - Filip Petrusev | PF | Mega Bemax

Second Round
31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU
32. New York (via DET) - Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia
33. Orlando - Luka Garza | C | Iowa
34. New Orleans (via CLE) - Greg Brown | FC | Texas
35. OKC - Max Abmas | PG | Oral Roberts
36. OKC (via MIN) - Roko Prkacin | PF | Cibona 
37. Detroit (via TOR) - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky
38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova
39. Sacramento - Johnny Juzang | SF | UCLA
40. New Orleans (via CHI) - Trey Murphy III | GF | Virginia
41. San Antonio - Isaiah Todd | PF | G League Ignite
42. Detroit (via CHA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga
43. New Orleans (via WAS) - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State
44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Austin Reaves | SG | Oklahoma
45. Boston - RaiQuan Gray | PF | Florida State
46. Toronto (via MEM) - Ariel Hukporti | C | BC Nevezis
47. Toronto (via GSW) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite
48. Atlanta (via MIA) - Ibou Dianko Badji | C | Barcelona
49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Jason Preston | PG | Ohio
50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Kessler Edwards | SF | Pepperdine
51. Memphis (via POR) - Rokas Jokubaitis | PG | Zalgiris
52. Detroit (via LAL) - Matthew Hurt | PF | Duke
53. New Orleans (via DAL) - David Johnson | PG | Louisville
54. Indiana (via MKE) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris
55. OKC (via DEN) - Terrence Shannon Jr | SG | Texas Tech
56. Charlotte (via LAC) - Isaiah Livers | PF | Michigan
57. Charlotte (via BKN) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke
58. New York (via PHI) - Aaron Henry | SG | Michigan State
59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - Amar Sylla | PF | Oostende
60. Indiana (via UTA) - Herbert Jones | SF | Alabama

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I did a lottery on Tankathon and did a draft. 

First Round
1. OKC - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State
2. Detroit - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite
3. Houston - Evan Mobley | FC | USC
4. Orlando - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga
5. Cleveland - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite
6. Golden State (via MIN) -  Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State
7. Toronto - James Bouknight | SG | UConn
8. Orlando (via CHI) - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas 
9. Sacramento - Jalen Johnson | SF | Duke
10. New Orleans - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee
11. Charlotte - Kai Jones | FC | Texas
12. San Antonio - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas
13. Indiana - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor
14. Golden State -Josh Giddey | G | Adelaide 
15. Washington - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga
16. Boston - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor
17. Memphis - Ziaire Williams | SF | Stanford
18. OKC (via MIA) - Jaden Springer | G | Tennessee
19. New York -  Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan
20. Atlanta - J.T. Thor | F | Auburn
21. New York (via DAL) - Tre Mann | PG | Florida
22. LA Lakers - Cameron Thomas | G | LSU
23. Houston (via POR) - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky
24. Houston (via MKE) - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn
25. LA Clippers - Trey Murphy III | GF | Virginia
26. Denver - Usman Garuba | FC | Real Madrid 
27. Brooklyn - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky
28. Philadelphia - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon
29. Phoenix - Vrenz Bleijenbergh | F | Antwerp
30. Utah - Ayo Dosunmu | G | Illinois 

Second Round
31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU
32. New York (via DET) - Josh Christopher | GF | Arizona State
33. Orlando - Amar Sylla | PF | Oostende
34. New Orleans (via CLE) - Greg Brown | FC | Texas
35. OKC - Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia
36. OKC (via MIN) - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina
37. Detroit (via TOR) - Johnny Juzang | SF | UCLA
38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova
39. Sacramento - Kiki Cockburn | C | Illinois
40. New Orleans (via CHI) -  Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 
41. San Antonio - Isaiah Todd | PF | G League Ignite
42. Detroit (via CHA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga
43. New Orleans (via WAS) - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State
44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Austin Reaves | SG | Oklahoma
45. Boston - RaiQuan Gray | PF | Florida State
46. Toronto (via MEM) - Ariel Hukporti | C | BC Nevezis
47. Toronto (via GSW) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite
48. Atlanta (via MIA) - Aaron Henry | SG | Michigan State
49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Jason Preston | PG | Ohio
50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Kessler Edwards | SF | Pepperdine
51. Memphis (via POR) - Rokas Jokubaitis | PG | Zalgiris
52. Detroit (via LAL) - Luka Garza | C | Iowa
53. New Orleans (via DAL) - Sandro Mamukelashvili | C| Seton Hall
54. Indiana (via MKE) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris
55. OKC (via DEN) - Terrence Shannon Jr | SG | Texas Tech
56. Charlotte (via LAC) - Isaiah Livers | PF | Michigan
57. Charlotte (via BKN) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke
58. New York (via PHI) - Ibou Dianko Badji | C | Barcelona
59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - RJ Nembhard | G | TCU
60. Indiana (via UTA) - Herbert Jones | SF | Alabama

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2 hours ago, Jeezla said:

Isaiah Jackson will be a 1st round pick. 

I could see it, but he's a Nerlens Noel clone and I would rather not spend a first on a guy who is likely a career back up. Still, some teams hold value in getting good value in those 12-20 mins a back up rim runner is on the court. 

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Another thing, Vrenz Bleijenbergh needs more love on this forum. 6'10 Playmaker who plays stout defense, finish, and can shoot well. Really good athlete too. For the life of me, I cannot see why a guy like him would be rated under other guys who are projected to be role players. As a floor I think Vrenz is a starting glue guy who can get you 12-7-5-1-1 on good splits. 

Def my draft crush this time around. 

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14 minutes ago, YogiBiz said:

I could see it, but he's a Nerlens Noel clone and I would rather not spend a first on a guy who is likely a career back up. Still, some teams hold value in getting good value in those 12-20 mins a back up rim runner is on the court. 

Outside of the top 5 picks most players in the NBA draft are backups that you hope develop.  Getting a player in the late first who can get 15 mins a game would be a win.  

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Regarding the two mocks above.... Those are my two ideal players for OKC. Jalen Suggs or Cade Cunningham. Both would fit our slashing positionless fundemental freeform g-league style offense perfectly.

Like basically the coaching philosophy in OKC did a complete 180 from Scott Brooks and Billy Donovan stuck in the 2000's NBA type of coaching. We're like 5 years ahead of the league rn, you just have to watch the games pre tank to see how effective the offense is, even with minimal talent.

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Doubt it's possible but my dream case scenario at this point would be to somehow move up and land Davion Mitchell. And then buy a second round pick to take Joel Ayayi or Johnny Juzang. 

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