brownie man Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: I personally love Kuminga's upside he reminds me of a Pascal Siakam/Kawhi Leonard hybrid from a physical tools/upside perspective. But he's going to have to end up in the right situation to capitalize on his skills. You say Siakim and Kawhi but then you call him a 4? Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: I mean you can just stand pat and add guys like Kuminga and Johnson, then you'll just remain in purgatory. Your core has no young players to be excited about or who have shown they can score or be difference makers in the NBA. do you surmise adding sexton will take us out of purgatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: do you surmise adding sexton will take us out of purgatory I don't think he takes you out of purgatory but he's far better than any guard or player you currently have on your roster. You have a log jam full of just okay players, you need difference makers. Sexton has at least shown he can score and will likely only continue to get better going forward. The only reason that the Cavaliers want to move on from Sexton is because a Garland/Sexton backcourt doesn't work defensively, they're both too small. And Sexton is due for a pay day next off-season, if Fultz can get healthy you wouldn't have that issue with Sexton/Fultz together in the backcourt. Then by moving up to #3 you'd have a chance to draft Evan Mobley who could potentially be AD-lite if he reaches his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, brownie man said: You say Siakim and Kawhi but then you call him a 4? Which is it? I said Kuminga reminds me of a Siakam/Kawhi hybrid in terms of his physical talent and upside. Kuminga is 6'8" 220 with a 7'0" wingspan, Kawhi is 6'7" 225 with a 7'3" wingspan, and Siakam is 6'9" 230 with a 7'3" wingspan. Siakam played both the 3/4 for the Raptors, he was interchangeable at the forward spots with OG. Kawhi plays the 3 but in the playoffs this year he was essentially interchangeable at the 3/4 with Batum in the Clippers small ball lineup. I think he's a combo forward just like those two especially as the league continues to move towards positionless basketball. He's a guy that will be able to switch 1-4 defensively and play either forward spot offensively. He's raw offensively for sure but he has great measurable's and plus level athleticism. Kuminga averaged 15.8 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 2.7 apg on 39% FG, 25% 3FG, and 62% FT. Siakam was the 27th pick and averaged 16.6 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 1.5 apg on 55% FG, 17% 3FG, 71% FT at a mid-major program. Kawhi was the 15th pick and averaged 14.1 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.2 apg on 45% FG, 25% 3FG, and 74% FT at a mid-major program. Not to mention Kuminga will be what just turning 19 at the start of his rookie season. Kawhi was a 20 year old rookie and Siakam was a 22 year old rookie. And neither of those guys did much during their first year in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: If you're going to draft Mobley I think you try to move Allen and Sexton on draft night to add more young pieces to your core that fit around Garland, Okoro, and Mobley. isnt Allen a RFA? I dont think they can move Allen on draft night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Any idea what Cleveland is expected to get outta sexton? could be an interesting PG in OKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: isnt Allen a RFA? I dont think they can move Allen on draft night. That is true, so I guess they'd take Mobley on draft night and look to move Allen at the deadline. Although it seems like they want to go guard and move Sexton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kirill said: Any idea what Cleveland is expected to get outta sexton? could be an interesting PG in OKC Not really sure, could see them swinging him to OKC for #6 and #16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I don't think he takes you out of purgatory but he's far better than any guard or player you currently have on your roster. You have a log jam full of just okay players, you need difference makers. Sexton has at least shown he can score and will likely only continue to get better going forward. The only reason that the Cavaliers want to move on from Sexton is because a Garland/Sexton backcourt doesn't work defensively, they're both too small. And Sexton is due for a pay day next off-season, if Fultz can get healthy you wouldn't have that issue with Sexton/Fultz together in the backcourt. Then by moving up to #3 you'd have a chance to draft Evan Mobley who could potentially be AD-lite if he reaches his ceiling. Sexton, Kevin Love, 3 FOR Cole Anthony, Markelle Fultz, Gary Harris, 5, 8 Collin Sexton / Michael Carter-Williams Jalen Green / RJ Hampton Jonathan Isaac / Terrence Ross Kevin Love / Chuma Okeke Mo Bamba / Wendell Carter Jr. i guess. sexton (34) / hampton (14) green (32) / hampton (12) / ross (4) isaac (26) / ross (22) love (22) / okeke (20) / isaac (6) bamba (24) / carter jr. (24) ~ until a clear leader is established at the 5 i'd rather stay flexible and add assets and cash in for a player like SGA or someone of that caliber once something inevitably happens to some star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Not to mention Kuminga will be what just turning 19 at the start of his rookie season. he's 21 i bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, FinneasGage said: i'd rather stay flexible and add assets and cash in for a player like SGA or someone of that caliber once something inevitably happens to some star. You guys are in a weird spot but personally I'd prefer Sexton and whoever's left at #3 over whoever you will potentially land at 5/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: You guys are in a weird spot but personally I'd prefer Sexton and whoever's left at #3 over whoever you will potentially land at 5/8. yeah it's sexier... i dunno if it's the right move tho if we wanna build something worth a **** long-term. if green is there at 3, i'm down tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: he's 21 i bet Everything I've seen says he was born in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, FinneasGage said: yeah it's sexier... i dunno if it's the right move tho if we wanna build something worth a **** long-term. if green is there at 3, i'm down tho. Right now you guys just have too many meh players across the board. At least with Sexton you have a young, proven 24 ppg scorer and would be adding another talented guard in Green who has the potential to be a 25+ ppg scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: Everything I've seen says he was born in 2002. yeah that's what he reported. same situation as biyombo/ibaka, not having birth certificates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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