OG_C2X Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 If you want to move on from Carr you don't understand football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 So, after watching some Zach Wilson, I think I would trade Carr plus whatever it took to get to #2. I think Lawrence and Wilson are special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: Davis would be dope. I'm not sold on Robinson, but Chicago has it's issues that contribute to that. Marvin Jones could be a sneaky good one. Despite reservations, I'd prefer Robinson of the 3. The others are good, but Robinson offers some size we're missing outside of Edwards at WR. Agholor, Ruggs, and Renfrow have proven themselves (outside of some of the Agholor drops referenced by @MrOaktown_56) and I feel like Davis and Jones offer much of the same play type. Robinson's in a bad spot and might be more of a reclamation project, but he offers dominant WR1 size. I'd give Robinson a huge deal right now. Watched his whole career. Absolute baller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I'd give Robinson a huge deal right now. Watched his whole career. Absolute baller. Robinson is better then Davis for sure. Robinson is a top 10 WR with a bad QB. He is probably a top 5 WR in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I'd give Robinson a huge deal right now. Watched his whole career. Absolute baller. This. I wanted to sign him when he left the Jags. He's an absolute machine who's never played with a decent QB in his career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I honestly wouldn't pay any high price wr until the offense shows they will use him. I would love Robinson. But to pay his price tag and only give him 60 targets or so would be crazy. Imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Rich7sena said: The Raiders will be operating at a cap deficit next season if the base cap plummets to around $175 million. According to overthecap.com, the Raiders will be operating from just over -$6 million. Plus, the Raiders will probably want/need to re-sign some players. I premised my opening post with the idea that the Raiders should capitalize on this free agent class. In my opinion, it's one of the best in recent memory and the Raiders are ripe for making playoff runs in consecutive seasons for the first time in decades. Ripe for playoff runs by trading their QB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, dante9876 said: I honestly wouldn't pay any high price wr until the offense shows they will use him. I would love Robinson. But to pay his price tag and only give him 60 targets or so would be crazy. Imo. He'd probably get more than 60 but then Ruggs wouldn't get enough. The goal moving forward should be to make Ruggs a bigger part of the offense. I don't see a way Waller isn't the main target in the near future and we won't become pass happy anytime soon either. That leaves the open WR spot in a complementary role. Agholor could be re-signed, Edwards could get his shot or we sign someone like David Moore from the Seahawks. The priority signing for me would be Marcus Williams from the Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: He'd probably get more than 60 but then Ruggs wouldn't get enough. The goal moving forward should be to make Ruggs a bigger part of the offense. I don't see a way Waller isn't the main target in the near future and we won't become pass happy anytime soon either. That leaves the open WR spot in a complementary role. Agholor could be re-signed, Edwards could get his shot or we sign someone like David Moore from the Seahawks. The priority signing for me would be Marcus Williams from the Saints. 50 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: He'd probably get more than 60 but then Ruggs wouldn't get enough. The goal moving forward should be to make Ruggs a bigger part of the offense. I don't see a way Waller isn't the main target in the near future and we won't become pass happy anytime soon either. That leaves the open WR spot in a complementary role. Agholor could be re-signed, Edwards could get his shot or we sign someone like David Moore from the Seahawks. The priority signing for me would be Marcus Williams from the Saints. Williams would be a great signing beside abram. We got to find a dominate inside dlineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, Dessie said: Ripe for playoff runs by trading their QB ? In my scenario, if Carr is traded it would be to draft a top prospect. I did a cursory viewing of Wilson and Fields this week, and I would trade Carr if it meant the team could draft Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rich7sena said: So, after watching some Zach Wilson, I think I would trade Carr plus whatever it took to get to #2. I think Lawrence and Wilson are special. You do see the tremendous risk in that move, right? If Mayock were to trade Carr and risk draft capital (at least 2 first rounders and then some) to move up to number 2 overall he better be 100 percent certain that Wilson or any other QB is an upgrade over Carr. If he makes that move and Wilson is a bust or average Mayocks GM career is over. Back to ESPN he goes. No way he would do that, not a chance especially the way Carr is playing right now. This is a 4 to 6 win team without Carr at the helm, our talent level is still pretty pathetic as we lack a pass rush, have a patchwork LB corp, secondary and most importantly have zero depth at almost every position. On O our WR's are unproven as we have castoff NA as our top threat (he has been playing well especially for an under the radar FA signing) we have no real depth behind Jacobs and our Oline has been hit and miss all year long. We have a lot of work to do to on both sides of the ball to become true contenders and spending a lot of draft capital on a QB, when we have a pro bowler already at the position on a decent contract makes zero sense unless you know for certain the QB you're drafting is a game changing, eilte, generational talent who is a can't miss prospect. Edited December 8, 2020 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, oakdb36 said: He'd probably get more than 60 but then Ruggs wouldn't get enough. The goal moving forward should be to make Ruggs a bigger part of the offense. I don't see a way Waller isn't the main target in the near future and we won't become pass happy anytime soon either. That leaves the open WR spot in a complementary role. Agholor could be re-signed, Edwards could get his shot or we sign someone like David Moore from the Seahawks. The priority signing for me would be Marcus Williams from the Saints. If we are talking names like David Moore might as well roll with what we got. Justin Simmons would be my guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG_C2X Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 if we can Marcus May, Anthony Harris or Justin Simmons would be nice on the defense. With ARob to replace Tyrell on the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, OG_C2X said: if we can Marcus May, Anthony Harris or Justin Simmons would be nice on the defense. With ARob to replace Tyrell on the offense. I think the best WR value will be Juju as he is only 24 and entering the prime of his career. Both Arob and Golliday are studs but I feel if they hit the FA market they will command more money than Juju. Based on Juju's age and the fact I think we could get him for 15 per year that would be a great option to take our WR corp to the next level. Juju, Ruggs, NA, Renfrow and Edwards will allow us to contend with the other high powered O's in the NFL for many years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, dante9876 said: Williams would be a great signing beside abram. We got to find a dominate inside dlineman. Well, there's Leonard Williams if the Giants are dumb enough to let him test FA. I think he's getting the tag at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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