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1 hour ago, mayanfootball said:

Glad you polished your crystal ball.

Advertisers use "quality" as a 'noun' to trick listeners into hearing "good quality", but fail to disclose reality means "poor quality". Berry is top shelf good quality, Parker less so, with Murray, Sorensen far behind. They're NOT all "good quality".

KC's deep coverage was pitiful against Houston. Our poor safety play led to two TD's and made a blowout appear closer than it really was. Losing Berry only made it more clear to me that KC needs to draft help (or sign FA) at safety.

Oh yes, I agree about Gaines. We need to draft a CB. It's a shame we didn't last draft. It was a supreme CB draft and we had many picks. After Hunt, there were still good CB's left that we passed on.

Parker missed by inches on the deep catch by Hopkins and the deep catch by their TE. And few WRs make the play that Hopkins did. The one to Fuller was caught on Mitchell and Mitchell was similarly close. Those aren't bad plays by Parker or by Mitchell. Sometimes a perfectly placed pass and a perfect jump by a receiver just can't be stopped. It's unlikely that happens again.

Seriously watch safety play around the league and you'll see how lucky we are. We're complaining about Parker not being able to jump as well as Hopkins. Around the league safeties are blowing coverages leaving guys like Hopkins running downfield wide open. Our guys had good coverage. They played each play right. They were just slightly off on the jump. That doesn't justify replacing them.

Berry is elite. Top 5 safety in the league. Parker is an above average starter, honestly. Top 20 or 25 in the league, at a position that starts 64 players with around 96 seeing a lot of playing time. Sorensen is probably the best #3 safety in the league. And Murray is mostly a coverage guy, not a run defender, but he has handled some serious challenges really well so far. If you don't notice him on the screen much yet this year, it's because his coverage has been excellent. He handled Reed when he was on the field against Washington, and Henry against the Chargers.

Even if you're lower on every single one of these players I am, I don't know what you're watching to think they'd be a premium need in the immediate future. This position is far better off for the future than ILB (DJ still aging), NT (Logan on a one year deal), WR (Conlely still wasn't really producing), OT (neither Fisher or Schwartz have been terribly impressive this year), or CB (Gaines sucks.) Because seriously, who do you cut of our 4 safeties to keep an unproven rookie on? And how do you justify taking a guy that high that is unlikely to crack the playing time portion of the depth chart?

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6 hours ago, Jakuvious said:

 

Even if you're lower on every single one of these players I am, I don't know what you're watching to think they'd be a premium need in the immediate future. This position is far better off for the future than ILB (DJ still aging), NT (Logan on a one year deal), WR (Conlely still wasn't really producing), OT (neither Fisher or Schwartz have been terribly impressive this year), or CB (Gaines sucks.) Because seriously, who do you cut of our 4 safeties to keep an unproven rookie on? And how do you justify taking a guy that high that is unlikely to crack the playing time portion of the depth chart?

I'd say need priority is ILB>CB>S>NT>WR>OT And isn't it interesting that the top 4 needs are defense? Management has delivered the offense. Now let's fix the Defense.It can't all be via the draft. We spent all of our gold last draft, some of the next. and still need alot of help as you point out. (I'm not as worried about OT. It's the interior OL that's worrying me). So we need to use FA too.

Back to Safety. If Terrell isn't our man, he's cut first. Berry will have spent months rehabing his injuries and not playing. I hope we carried insurance on him because we spent a ton of money on him to play, and play at an elite level. I don't expect Berry will ever be the same. Hopefully i'm wrong, but look at DJ. He's lost 2 steps at least since coming back. If he can stay healthy (?) Berry is still better than Parker. Parker plays until replaced. I've seen enough of Sorensen and would keep Murray because he's younger. I just don't rate Sorensen as high as you and others do.

I've mentioned Eddie Jackson/Alabama. He fell to the 4th. round. Jackson could replace Sorensen in a heartbeat. He's starting now, right out of the gate. He can run defend and cover deep balls. Our scouting staff needs to get to their homework and find a similar player.

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Just because Jackson is starting for the Bears means nothing. They had nobody else as it was. No he's not much if a run defender (converted corner) with an injury history to boot. Not gonna go get a whole scouting report or trash Jackson but to say that our scout Dept needs to do homework to get a guy like that when you didn't have him ironed out is a little silly imo. If Berry doesn't tear his Achilles, this isn't even much of a topic.

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3 hours ago, mayanfootball said:

I'd say need priority is ILB>CB>S>NT>WR>OT And isn't it interesting that the top 4 needs are defense? Management has delivered the offense. Now let's fix the Defense.It can't all be via the draft. We spent all of our gold last draft, some of the next. and still need alot of help as you point out. (I'm not as worried about OT. It's the interior OL that's worrying me). So we need to use FA too.

Back to Safety. If Terrell isn't our man, he's cut first. Berry will have spent months rehabing his injuries and not playing. I hope we carried insurance on him because we spent a ton of money on him to play, and play at an elite level. I don't expect Berry will ever be the same. Hopefully i'm wrong, but look at DJ. He's lost 2 steps at least since coming back. If he can stay healthy (?) Berry is still better than Parker. Parker plays until replaced. I've seen enough of Sorensen and would keep Murray because he's younger. I just don't rate Sorensen as high as you and others do.

I've mentioned Eddie Jackson/Alabama. He fell to the 4th. round. Jackson could replace Sorensen in a heartbeat. He's starting now, right out of the gate. He can run defend and cover deep balls. Our scouting staff needs to get to their homework and find a similar player.

Terrell started the season on the practice squad. He was not on the 53 man roster until Berry was hurt.

So again, who of Berry, Parker, Sorensen, and Murray do you cut to get a rookie on the roster?

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34 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

 

Just because Jackson is starting for the Bears means nothing.

 

? Huh? He's an Alabama alumni so he's pro-ready. He was a 1st.rd. pick before he got hurt.

34 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

No he's not much if a run defender

? Huh? He played Safety at Alabama because he can.

34 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

to say that our scout Dept needs to do homework to get a guy like that when you didn't have him ironed out is a little silly imo.

What's silly about "Scouting" performing due diligence to fill an identified need?

34 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

If Berry doesn't tear his Achilles, this isn't even much of a topic.

But he did and so it is relevant to what can the Chiefs expect going forward.

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4 minutes ago, Jakuvious said:

 

So again, who of Berry, Parker, Sorensen, and Murray do you cut to get a rookie on the roster?

Please read my response previously posted above. (Did you? Hint, it's Sorensen). I've also previously stated that we could go either the FA or draft route. It doesn't have to be just the draft. A post-season review of player availability should be on management's "to-do" list.

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