kgarrett12486 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, ravishingone said: I can see a scenerio with AB not re signed and Marshall the first pick. I would be very happy. Don't think he'll last till our pick IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: Don't think he'll last till our pick IMO. Interesting to see who gets drafted first- Marshall or Toney? The Bucs just aren t going to draft a traditional slot WR. I think they like the idea of an insurance policy behind Evans n Godwin. Do they believe Johnson can fill in? That will decide if they go WR before day 3 if AB isn t re signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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haveyoumetdustin Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Been trying to think outside of the box on our first couple picks. Arians gave the first idea of what they're thinking saying they want to add speed to the defense. We know Bowles likes to move pieces around too, so someone versatile would be nice. Joseph Ossai is one of the first names that jumps out. His future is as a pass rusher, but he does have experience dropping into coverage and played some Jack in a 4-3 at Texas. He's wont be the future Lavonte replacement, but he could get some extra snaps as a rookie because of his versatility and with Bowles getting creative. Jayson Oweh is another guy I think they'd take a swing at, someone we could let develop for a couple of years until JPP retires. Speaking of creative, I've been thinking about a concept Bowles might start pushing more of.. We've seen the recent trend of the hybrid safety/linebacker becoming more popular. We've seen Bowles move around DL pieces all over formations. If we get the right athlete, would Bowles experiment with playing someone in a hybrid 3T/5T, and edge rusher role standing up? Im looking at guys like Milton Williams, who played in the interior in college but has the athleticism of an edge. Someone like Gregory Rousseau, who looks like an edge but has had a lot of success playing in the interior in college? Having someone that can play 30% of snaps on the outside and 30% of snaps on the inside, coming into relief for Suh one series and in for JPP the next series. A chess piece to move around based off the formation/situation the offense is in. Another direction you don't see too much in mocks is drafting a corner in the 1st. SMB stepped up big time in the playoffs, but his regular season was underwhelming. Carlton is an upcoming FA, and him and Jamel have missed time with injuries. If someone like Greg Newsome is high on our FO's board, or if someone like Caleb Farley drops because of injuries, I think there's a chance we take one of them. Worst case, they come in as the 4th CB and play ~20%-30% of snaps this year, about the same a backup edge would. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, haveyoumetdustin said: Been trying to think outside of the box on our first couple picks. Arians gave the first idea of what they're thinking saying they want to add speed to the defense. We know Bowles likes to move pieces around too, so someone versatile would be nice. Joseph Ossai is one of the first names that jumps out. His future is as a pass rusher, but he does have experience dropping into coverage and played some Jack in a 4-3 at Texas. He's wont be the future Lavonte replacement, but he could get some extra snaps as a rookie because of his versatility and with Bowles getting creative. Jayson Oweh is another guy I think they'd take a swing at, someone we could let develop for a couple of years until JPP retires. Speaking of creative, I've been thinking about a concept Bowles might start pushing more of.. We've seen the recent trend of the hybrid safety/linebacker becoming more popular. We've seen Bowles move around DL pieces all over formations. If we get the right athlete, would Bowles experiment with playing someone in a hybrid 3T/5T, and edge rusher role standing up? Im looking at guys like Milton Williams, who played in the interior in college but has the athleticism of an edge. Someone like Gregory Rousseau, who looks like an edge but has had a lot of success playing in the interior in college? Having someone that can play 30% of snaps on the outside and 30% of snaps on the inside, coming into relief for Suh one series and in for JPP the next series. A chess piece to move around based off the formation/situation the offense is in. Another direction you don't see too much in mocks is drafting a corner in the 1st. SMB stepped up big time in the playoffs, but his regular season was underwhelming. Carlton is an upcoming FA, and him and Jamel have missed time with injuries. If someone like Greg Newsome is high on our FO's board, or if someone like Caleb Farley drops because of injuries, I think there's a chance we take one of them. Worst case, they come in as the 4th CB and play ~20%-30% of snaps this year, about the same a backup edge would. definitely like Ossai, Oweh is interesting but so freaking raw (smh just missed out on Ossai in FFMD blah punching myself) i have thought about going outside the box as well and going CB rd1 , especially if Farley fell there but Newsome or Asante Samuel Jr would be good too i havent looked at Milton Williams though so im gona have to check him out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caaddy24 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 13 hours ago, haveyoumetdustin said: Been trying to think outside of the box on our first couple picks. Arians gave the first idea of what they're thinking saying they want to add speed to the defense. We know Bowles likes to move pieces around too, so someone versatile would be nice. Joseph Ossai is one of the first names that jumps out. His future is as a pass rusher, but he does have experience dropping into coverage and played some Jack in a 4-3 at Texas. He's wont be the future Lavonte replacement, but he could get some extra snaps as a rookie because of his versatility and with Bowles getting creative. Jayson Oweh is another guy I think they'd take a swing at, someone we could let develop for a couple of years until JPP retires. Speaking of creative, I've been thinking about a concept Bowles might start pushing more of.. We've seen the recent trend of the hybrid safety/linebacker becoming more popular. We've seen Bowles move around DL pieces all over formations. If we get the right athlete, would Bowles experiment with playing someone in a hybrid 3T/5T, and edge rusher role standing up? Im looking at guys like Milton Williams, who played in the interior in college but has the athleticism of an edge. Someone like Gregory Rousseau, who looks like an edge but has had a lot of success playing in the interior in college? Having someone that can play 30% of snaps on the outside and 30% of snaps on the inside, coming into relief for Suh one series and in for JPP the next series. A chess piece to move around based off the formation/situation the offense is in. Another direction you don't see too much in mocks is drafting a corner in the 1st. SMB stepped up big time in the playoffs, but his regular season was underwhelming. Carlton is an upcoming FA, and him and Jamel have missed time with injuries. If someone like Greg Newsome is high on our FO's board, or if someone like Caleb Farley drops because of injuries, I think there's a chance we take one of them. Worst case, they come in as the 4th CB and play ~20%-30% of snaps this year, about the same a backup edge would. Definitely in for the hybrid position. But, not very common, and there's so many edge guys going into the 3rd round. I'd hate to not come away with one of them. For CB, a late round developmental guy at the most I'd hope. I just think with that, I'd rather trade for someone or pick up a vet free agent than draft another high pick CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyoumetdustin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Caaddy24 said: Definitely in for the hybrid position. But, not very common, and there's so many edge guys going into the 3rd round. I'd hate to not come away with one of them. For CB, a late round developmental guy at the most I'd hope. I just think with that, I'd rather trade for someone or pick up a vet free agent than draft another high pick CB. Were you on the draftcountdown forum back in the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caaddy24 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, haveyoumetdustin said: Were you on the draftcountdown forum back in the day? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 As someone who would like the Bucs to draft Collins, this 40 time works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ravishingone said: As someone who would like the Bucs to draft Collins, this 40 time works for me. thats a bit slower than i thought he'd run.... especially without the combine, that means he's more of a 4.7 guy hmm he definitely doesnt look like that on tape, he plays faster i'd trust the tape over the 40 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 12 hours ago, ravishingone said: As someone who would like the Bucs to draft Collins, this 40 time works for me. Yeah this 40 time going hurt his stock but i hope we consider him anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, indifference said: Yeah this 40 time going hurt his stock but i hope we consider him anyway It blatantly defies BA's most recent comments about adding speed to the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: It blatantly defies BA's most recent comments about adding speed to the defense. Does it contradict BA s statement about speed on game tape as opposed to 40 times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 6 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: It blatantly defies BA's most recent comments about adding speed to the defense. Nah, the tape bears out Collins speed. He's always flashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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