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Will Arch Manning become most hyped prospect ever?


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1 hour ago, sammymvpknight said:

Imagine Luck and Lawrence...now add the pedigree of being a Manning. But he still needs to do it at the college level. 

Agreed, in terms of pro prospectus high school production is absolutely meaningless.  Arch has to show up in college to even be considered one of the best but with the Manning name no question he will be the most hyped coming out of high school with the early success he has had. Here is an older list of the all time yardage passing leaders in high school history.  Helps show how worthless it really is in terms of NFL ability.  

 

Career high school passing yardage since 2017:


18,932, Maty Mauk, Kenton (Ohio), 2008-11
17,364, Ben Mauk, Kenton (Ohio), 1999-2002
16,775, Jake Browning, Folsom (Calif.), 2012-14
15,593, Chris Leak, Independence (Charlotte, N.C.), 1999-2002
15,138, Myles Brennan, St. Stanislaus (Bay St. Louis, Miss.), 20013-16
14,565, Will Grier, Davidson Day (Davidson, N.C.), 2011-13
14,457, J.R. House, Nitro (W. Va.), 1995-98
14,408, Hunter Lile, Booker (Texas), 2011-14
14,223, Travis Quintanilla, Refugio (Texas), 2010-13
14,082, Tucker Israel, Lake Nona (Orlando, Fla.), 2011-14

 

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2 hours ago, Ozzy said:

Agreed, in terms of pro prospectus high school production is absolutely meaningless.  Arch has to show up in college to even be considered one of the best but with the Manning name no question he will be the most hyped coming out of high school with the early success he has had. Here is an older list of the all time yardage passing leaders in high school history.  Helps show how worthless it really is in terms of NFL ability.  

 

Career high school passing yardage since 2017:


18,932, Maty Mauk, Kenton (Ohio), 2008-11
17,364, Ben Mauk, Kenton (Ohio), 1999-2002
16,775, Jake Browning, Folsom (Calif.), 2012-14
15,593, Chris Leak, Independence (Charlotte, N.C.), 1999-2002
15,138, Myles Brennan, St. Stanislaus (Bay St. Louis, Miss.), 20013-16
14,565, Will Grier, Davidson Day (Davidson, N.C.), 2011-13
14,457, J.R. House, Nitro (W. Va.), 1995-98
14,408, Hunter Lile, Booker (Texas), 2011-14
14,223, Travis Quintanilla, Refugio (Texas), 2010-13
14,082, Tucker Israel, Lake Nona (Orlando, Fla.), 2011-14

 

High school status/hype definitely matters. Look back at Luck’s college career. I mean...he was good...but he wouldn’t be considered as one of the best college QBs ever. Not even close. Arch Manning could have an Andrew Luck like college career, or even worse...and still be the most hyped NFL QB prospect ever. The floor is just so incredibly high. The Manning track record is insane, and Arch is the most physically gifted of them all. 

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Watching that video in the OP made me feel really bad for the kids of Booker t Washington high school for not having a football team since Katrina. They used to be a powerhouse program, but the kids that went there the last 15 years didn't get a chance to play football. That's just wrong.  

Arch looks like a cool customer. Really smooth. Doesn't look like just a sophomore. He's probably not done growing either. They said he was already 6'3. Sophomores are like 15 or whatever. So he could be like 6'5 or 6'6 but still be super polished with a fast and repeatable release. Usually that's the downside to being so tall, a slow release. 

He's going to be under a microscope for the next 20 years. 

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2 hours ago, BayRaider said:

Yep.

That and they blow millions on getting the kid trained with both fitness and QB stuff, that other HS kids can't get.

"Millions" 

They just have his grandfather and uncles help him do drills properly and since a very early age. The bosa brothers were the same way, they did pass rushing drills when they were like 3/4 years old. Arch was taught perfect mechanics since day one. He doesn't know the wrong way to throw a football 

As the great Vince Lombardi said: "practice makes permanent, perfect practice makes perfect"

Even if they did spend millions, the guy will likely go pro and so therefore it would have been a good investment on their part. 

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21 hours ago, N4L said:

"Millions" 

They just have his grandfather and uncles help him do drills properly and since a very early age. The bosa brothers were the same way, they did pass rushing drills when they were like 3/4 years old. Arch was taught perfect mechanics since day one. He doesn't know the wrong way to throw a football 

As the great Vince Lombardi said: "practice makes permanent, perfect practice makes perfect"

Even if they did spend millions, the guy will likely go pro and so therefore it would have been a good investment on their part. 

As long as the passion is there teaching kids at a young age to do things the right way will lead to long term success. Arch, probably goes to Duke with Cutcliffe, and will then be groomed to be a pro. If he goes to a bigger school(Alabama or Georgia) since they're usually competing for National Titles it'll be interesting to see his development. 

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On 12/15/2020 at 12:05 PM, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

As someone who witnessed the hype for both Luck and Lawrence, I don't think it's even fair to compare those two. Luck was hyped to a level I've never seen before.

I take it you do not remember John Elway as a sophomore at Stanford.

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I believe that he'll end up at Oklahoma, because 1 thing is for sure, they'll want him playing for a coach who is reliably sending first rd QB'S to the NFL. Rattler will be entering the NFL by that time. Ohio State has Ewers so Manning might have to wait a bit there. I don't think Arch will choose an alumni school. The NFL is going to be the ultimate factor here. And I hope he goes to an organization he doesn't want to play for as that family is spoiled. Future Detroit Lion 

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