drfrey13 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: That definitely gets old My only question is if he was doing that as a Gruden yes man or did he truly believe it. If he truly believed it then see you later. If he was just following Gruden's lead because without it he had no job security then I understand. Only people on the inside know this and that is why I am hopeful Davis will make the right decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: In 2 years you will be eating your words. His athleticism just jumps out at you but his technique is garbage. A fixable problem It most certainly does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: It most certainly does not. I thought I was tripping like did I miss something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: My only question is if he was doing that as a Gruden yes man or did he truly believe it. If he truly believed it then see you later. If he was just following Gruden's lead because without it he had no job security then I understand. Only people on the inside know this and that is why I am hopeful Davis will make the right decision. Yea the world may never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: It most certainly does not. Just look how quick he is short area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Just look how quick he is short area. So quick he leads the league in false starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich7sena said: So quick he leads the league in false starts. Ok Hater good conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 22 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: In 2 years you will be eating your words. His athleticism just jumps out at you but his technique is garbage. A fixable problem So here's the thing I actually agree with this. It's obvious that the Raiders were going for athleticism that they could coach/develop over time. My problem with that is that they said he was a "plug and play right tackle" which we see now is not true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Ok Hater good conversation This is why I bookmark the Clelin Ferrell thread--truly the gift that keeps on giving. This you? On 4/26/2019 at 11:35 AM, Bitty 2.0 said: You’re right they’re crying about drafting the most dominant DE in college football. I don't know what it is, but certain Raiders fans and analysist love to be loud wrong about the team's draft busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 4:13 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: But they always claim they got their guy 🤷🏾♂️ leatherdude was #1 on their board remember The only reason that I still have some faith in Leatherwood is because Kolton had arguably the worst season for a starting LT in NFL history his rookie season but has developed into a top 10 LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Rich7sena said: So quick he leads the league in false starts. Kolton led the league in sacks allowed as a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Kolton led the league in sacks allowed as a rookie. But, unlike Leatherwood, you could see Miller's athleticism jump out at you. And, this isn't hindsight being 20/20, I was much higher on Miller's future when he was struggling that I am on Leatherwood's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: But, unlike Leatherwood, you could see Miller's athleticism jump out at you. And, this isn't hindsight being 20/20, I was much higher on Miller's future when he was struggling that I am on Leatherwood's. Leatherwood's RAS was one of the highest for an OT in the last 25 years. He's athletic but I think he may be best suited to play OG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Leatherwood's RAS was one of the highest for an OT in the last 25 years. He's athletic but I think he may be best suited to play OG. I would trust what I saw on the field before athletic testing--especially when there was no combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Kolton led the league in sacks allowed as a rookie. Leatherwood would probably lead in sacks allowed also but they kicked him to guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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