Humble_Beast Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 hours ago, NickButera said: I don't think cutting Drake or Good is worth it. They provide value. Littleton and Kwit can be replaced, Perryman pretty much took a LB job over this year and Morrow and Deablo were showing they're worthy of a starting position. Our LB corps wouldn't be too depleted if we got rid of them. Nassib is a worthy DE backup who makes plays. Not sure why we'd cut him though. Not sure I'd be a fan. I think Littleton is a no brainer cut post 6/1. What a lousy move, couldn't even shine in a better scheme. Kwit is gone too, prolly just a normal cut. I would prolly just keep Nassib because we don't save much and he is a decent depth piece on the DL. if tight on money and could find better for cheaper, then I guess. I think Drake and Nassib are gone. Can't say the same for Littleton and Kwit. that's still 60m in cap space. Would have most the starters in place too QB: DC RB: Jacobs, Drake FB: Ingold WR: ? , ? , Renfrow TE: Waller OL: Miller, ? , James, Leatherwood/Good, ? DL: Max, ? , ?, Yannick LB: Deablo, Perryman, ? DB: ?, Mullen, Hobbs, Moehrig, ? plus we would have Abram and Ferrell as possible trade chips for more savings. I do think Waller is going to hold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: I think Littleton is a no brainer cut post 6/1. What a lousy move, couldn't even shine in a better scheme. Kwit is gone too, prolly just a normal cut. I would prolly just keep Nassib because we don't save much and he is a decent depth piece on the DL. if tight on money and could find better for cheaper, then I guess. I think Drake and Nassib are gone. Can't say the same for Littleton and Kwit. that's still 60m in cap space. Would have most the starters in place too QB: DC RB: Jacobs, Drake FB: Ingold WR: ? , ? , Renfrow TE: Waller OL: Miller, ? , James, Leatherwood/Good, ? DL: Max, ? , ?, Yannick LB: Deablo, Perryman, ? DB: ?, Mullen, Hobbs, Moehrig, ? plus we would have Abram and Ferrell as possible trade chips for more savings. I do think Waller is going to hold out I want to keep Philon and Jefferson as rotational DTs. Moreau is definitely our TE2 as well, he just needs better chemistry with Carr. Koonce should be here as well. N. Morrow will be back at LB IMO. I think we should resign C. Heyward as well. We definitely need our DBs to get better at getting the INTs though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Jerry said: I want to keep Philon and Jefferson as rotational DTs. Moreau is definitely our TE2 as well, he just needs better chemistry with Carr. Koonce should be here as well. N. Morrow will be back at LB IMO. I think we should resign C. Heyward as well. We definitely need our DBs to get better at getting the INTs though. Moehrig in the last few games seems to be breaking on the ball a lot more and wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a jump in terms of making picks next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: I think Littleton is a no brainer cut post 6/1. What a lousy move, couldn't even shine in a better scheme. Kwit is gone too, prolly just a normal cut. I would prolly just keep Nassib because we don't save much and he is a decent depth piece on the DL. if tight on money and could find better for cheaper, then I guess. I think Drake and Nassib are gone. Can't say the same for Littleton and Kwit. that's still 60m in cap space. Would have most the starters in place too QB: DC RB: Jacobs, Drake FB: Ingold WR: ? , ? , Renfrow TE: Waller OL: Miller, ? , James, Leatherwood/Good, ? DL: Max, ? , ?, Yannick LB: Deablo, Perryman, ? DB: ?, Mullen, Hobbs, Moehrig, ? plus we would have Abram and Ferrell as possible trade chips for more savings. I do think Waller is going to hold out Cutting Nassib will save $3 million next year but $8 million overall. Cutting Littleton ($11.75), Nassib ($8), Kwiat ($7) would save a little over $8 million next year and $26.75 million over the next few years. None of the players are going are worth keeping next year. All 3 can be June 1st cuts if we choose to spread out the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Jerry said: I want to keep Philon and Jefferson as rotational DTs. Moreau is definitely our TE2 as well, he just needs better chemistry with Carr. Koonce should be here as well. N. Morrow will be back at LB IMO. I think we should resign C. Heyward as well. We definitely need our DBs to get better at getting the INTs though. I'm still amazed at our lack of 2 TE sets. Yep, 100%. Need more picks from the secondary for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Jerry said: I want to keep Philon and Jefferson as rotational DTs. Moreau is definitely our TE2 as well, he just needs better chemistry with Carr. Koonce should be here as well. N. Morrow will be back at LB IMO. I think we should resign C. Heyward as well. We definitely need our DBs to get better at getting the INTs though. Moreau been here for 3 years already, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: I think Littleton is a no brainer cut post 6/1. What a lousy move, couldn't even shine in a better scheme. Kwit is gone too, prolly just a normal cut. I would prolly just keep Nassib because we don't save much and he is a decent depth piece on the DL. if tight on money and could find better for cheaper, then I guess. I think Drake and Nassib are gone. Can't say the same for Littleton and Kwit. that's still 60m in cap space. Would have most the starters in place too QB: DC RB: Jacobs, Drake FB: Ingold WR: ? , ? , Renfrow TE: Waller OL: Miller, ? , James, Leatherwood/Good, ? DL: Max, ? , ?, Yannick LB: Deablo, Perryman, ? DB: ?, Mullen, Hobbs, Moehrig, ? plus we would have Abram and Ferrell as possible trade chips for more savings. I do think Waller is going to hold out I don't really see the value in cutting Kenyan Drake, we'd save $2.5M but would eat $5.5M in dead cap. If he's healthy he's a nice insurance policy to have behind Jacobs. I'd bring back Philon, Jefferson, and Hankins at DT. Draft someone like Zachary Carter or go after a vet like Campbell or Hicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 My ideal free agency: • Morgan Moses, RT (2 yr/$13M) • Austin Corbett, OG (3 yr/$21M) • JC Jackson, CB (4 yr/$70M) • Calais Campbell, DT (1 yr/$6M) • DJ Chark, WR (1 yr/$10M) • Marquez Valdez-Scantling (1 yr/$4M) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Imagine Chark and MSV, two 6'5 WR's with legitimate 4.3 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: I don't really see the value in cutting Kenyan Drake, we'd save $2.5M but would eat $5.5M in dead cap. If he's healthy he's a nice insurance policy to have behind Jacobs. I'd bring back Philon, Jefferson, and Hankins at DT. Draft someone like Zachary Carter or go after a vet like Campbell or Hicks. typo, meant to say keep Drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Drake is a good player, his cap hit is too high and it is another example of Mayock & Gruden have poor roster building skills but he is here might as well use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 12:06 AM, NYRaider said: Moreau been here for 3 years already, lol. He's good. He's underutilized IMO. I'd rather have him on the field than B. Edwards. I honestly think with better chemistry he would be a much better red zone threat than what we currently have on the field. His rookie season he had 5 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Jerry said: He's good. He's underutilized IMO. I'd rather have him on the field than B. Edwards. I honestly think with better chemistry he would be a much better red zone threat than what we currently have on the field. His rookie season he had 5 TDs. God with Waller and Renfrow getting all the attention in the redzon, Moreau on a delayed route would be open. I dont know why weve never done this lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 4:26 AM, Jraider91 said: Drake is a good player, his cap hit is too high and it is another example of Mayock & Gruden have poor roster building skills but he is here might as well use him. Eating $5.5M in dead cap to save $2.5M just seems like a bad move with Drake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Eating $5.5M in dead cap to save $2.5M just seems like a bad move with Drake. Sunk cost fallacy, although it depends on who the replacement would be and how much they'd cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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