Dessie Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, NCOUGHMAN said: If we have losing records yes. But if you want to win a SB you’re saying it has to be with a rookie Qb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Jack Del Rio's 3 seasons at HC: 25-23, 1 playoff appearance Jon Gruden's 3 seasons at HC: 18-29, 0 playoff appearances This is the damning stat for me. Nothing yet to suggest Gruden is an improvement over JDR. Let’s face it Gruden is a bottom tier HC. He’s not a playoff calibre coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dessie said: KC have just signed Mahomes to a new contract, by your logic they shouldn’t have and should be getting a new QB ? No he won the sb just like Russ but Russ couldn’t/ hasn’t won a sb since getting paid. History shows it’s very difficult unless you’re Brady or manning. Even brees won the sb then got paid and never returned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dessie said: But if you want to win a SB you’re saying it has to be with a rookie Qb? A qb on a rookie qb contract. Even with carr we had our window. Then his rookie contract expired he got paid and we haven’t had a winning record since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: No he won the sb just like Russ but Russ couldn’t/ hasn’t won a sb since getting paid. History shows it’s very difficult unless you’re Brady or manning. Even brees won the sb then got paid and never returned Wilson's one SB victory was because of their elite defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dessie said: This is the damning stat for me. Nothing yet to suggest Gruden is an improvement over JDR. Let’s face it Gruden is a bottom tier HC. He’s not a playoff calibre coach. JDR got fired after a 7-9 season following a 12-4 year/playoff appearance. And Gruden gets a free ride after what will be back to back 7-9 seasons. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I'd bet on Miami being a one year wonder and regressing like the Jags did. The exact same was said about the Jags on this forum back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, NCOUGHMAN said: A qb on a rookie qb contract. Even with carr we had our window. Then his rookie contract expired he got paid and we haven’t had a winning record since So you are saying to win a Super Bowl you need a rookie QB and so everyone should be changing QBs every 4-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, oakdb36 said: I'd bet on Miami being a one year wonder and regressing like the Jags did. The exact same was said about the Jags on this forum back then. I wouldn't considering they have a good defense, will have money to spend in free agency, and a ton of draft capital since they own Houston's 1st/2nd this year which will be top 10 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wilson's one SB victory was because of their elite defense. And what happened to that defense after Russ got paid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I wouldn't considering they have a good defense, will have money to spend in free agency, and a ton of draft capital since they own Houston's 1st/2nd this year which will be top 10 picks. Jags had a great D too. Keeping a D playing at a high level is too hard and their young QB doesn't look good right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: And what happened to that defense after Russ got paid? So what you are saying is that the Seahawks shouldn’t have paid Wilson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dessie said: So what you are saying is that the Seahawks shouldn’t have paid Wilson ? Nope they had to he won the sb it’s expected history shows it’s hard to win the sb with a big $ qb. even arod won the sb at 6-7 mill then got paid and never won again flacco same thing Edited December 27, 2020 by NCOUGHMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Jags had a great D too. Keeping a D playing at a high level is too hard and their young QB doesn't look good right now. We'll see how they look with Trevor Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Back to back years we completely choke our playoff position. He's had 3 years to install his vision for the team and all 3 years we've missed the playoffs. Gruden needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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