CWood21 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, Forge said: I'll never be mad at a player deciding to leave or return to college, but I'm really questioning the logic here. But then again, I said the same thing about DeVonta Smith too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, ACO said: Bubba Bolden going back to school I think. I thought I saw that. Probably wants to learn from Ed Reed some more, Bolden had a great season this year and should be even better next year, and it is a very deep group of safeties in 2021. But 2022 is stacked, Kyle Hamilton, Jalen Catalon, Daxton Hill and Jamien Sherwood he will have to compete with next year. Hamilton and Catalon are both big time stars and arguably both would be picked #1 and #2 in the safety class this year, especially Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Forge said: That's frustrating. He's a great player. Would have made an outstanding 2nd round pick. It's a mistake imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Olave is one of the guys I was hoping the Packers would target at the back end of the first this year. Not a fan of him going back. Reminds me of last year when I said Chuba Hubbard and Travis Etienne were making a mistake by returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, jrry32 said: That's frustrating. He's a great player. Would have made an outstanding 2nd round pick. It's a mistake imo. Think he even had a shot in late round 1. With Fields leaving too...idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, jrry32 said: That's frustrating. He's a great player. Would have made an outstanding 2nd round pick. It's a mistake imo. Amazing foot and boundary work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 People need to start listening to Nick Saban a little here. Even this year he commented on how basketball and baseball have minor league systems that develop players. The NFL does not always develop players and does not have a minor league currently that does, you need to be a finished product or close to it, and if not you will be left on the curb unless you are ridiculously talented physically. There is no G-league in football so if you go before you are ready your career could be over shortly. He said roughly 380 players in a 5 years span went out early for the draft, and 25% of those did not even get drafted and another 25% were not on a team in three years. Thus 50% of those guys who went out early for the draft had failed careers. I sure hope most are going out early because they simply are not good at or do not really like school. Because there are always those guys where it is like, what the hell are they doing declaring early. Would love to know the stats of players who leave early, do they ever return and finish school and what percentage of them do, that would be interesting to know. My guess is most never even do it and never got the degree and are possibly out of the NFL or maybe never even got a shot. 17 hours ago, Ragnarok said: Olave is one of the guys I was hoping the Packers would target at the back end of the first this year. Not a fan of him going back. Reminds me of last year when I said Chuba Hubbard and Travis Etienne were making a mistake by returning. Sure Chuba had a terrible season and got injured a ton. Etienne still will be the #2 or #3 RB taken in the draft. No way Hubbard or Etienne would have been picked over Edwards-Helaire, Swift, Taylor, Dobbins, Dillon or maybe even Cam Akers. So both will be picked higher in 2021 than they would have in 2020, especially Etienne, again Hubbard hard to tell because of injuries. But who knows maybe not as many teams will be looking for backs but still not sure it was a mistake, but sure too bad Najee Harris out played them both greatly and will be the #1 RB taken. Last years class is deeper than this years though so again not sure it was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 4:47 PM, Ozzy said: Tamorrion Terry Florida State RS JR WR Jake Ferguson Wisconsin RS JR TE Charlie Kolar Iowa State RS JR Xavier Thomas Clemson JR DE Tyreke Smith Ohio State JR DE Tyree Johnson Texas A&M RS JR DE Jack Sanborn Wisconsin JR ILB Bubba Bolden Miami FL RS JR S Isaiah Pola-Mao USC RS JR S Dax Hollifield Virginia Tech JR ILB Looks like all of these guys I listed earlier are all returning. Surprised Tamorrion Terry was not invited to the Senior bowl, I assume he is coming out for the draft then and not returning to school since he left Florida State before the season ended? Have not heard otherwise but not sure he has to declare since he technically is a senior. Odd he is not invited to the senior bowl though. Jamien Sherwood declared and that was a surprise and the only one that I have not seen lately. Love him as a prospect though, could have been a higher pick next year but kid has skills, love his length and toughness as a tackler. Should be a fine mid round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: Sure Chuba had a terrible season and got injured a ton. Etienne still will be the #2 or #3 RB taken in the draft. No way Hubbard or Etienne would have been picked over Edwards-Helaire, Swift, Taylor, Dobbins, Dillon or maybe even Cam Akers. So both will be picked higher in 2021 than they would have in 2020, especially Etienne, again Hubbard hard to tell because of injuries. But who knows maybe not as many teams will be looking for backs but still not sure it was a mistake, but sure too bad Najee Harris out played them both greatly and will be the #1 RB taken. Last years class is deeper than this years though so again not sure it was a mistake. I think Etienne 100% had a very good chance or being picked over any of those guys. Maybe KC would have liked his style just a little more than CEH. That said, I think any RB, more than any other position group, who likely goes first 3 rounds should come out. All they add is wear and tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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