Kevin King relative to other #2 CB

[squire12]

Wanted to put forth a more dedicated place to discuss impending FA Kevin King.     Below is a collection of stats pulled from pro football reference for the current year.  I went through and looked at the top 3 CB for each team in terms of targets, then crossed checked that ---ROUGHLY-- with depth charts to assign a 1, 2 or 3 in terms of their CB for respective teams.   There certainly will be some errors as I am not up on which CB is truly the #1 or #2 CB for their teams and targets is an opportunity stat and can be skewed for sure.  I did not post the full stat line to keep things shorter on the page.  

Important columns highlighted in green

CB# = what I assigned as the teams CB1, 2 or 3.  Argue those all you want.  
Tgt = number of times targeted in coverage
Rat = QB passer rating against.  

 

Rk	Player	CB#	Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat
121	Patrick Peterson	1	ARI	30	CB	13	13	3	68	47	69.10%	595	12.7	8.8	4	97.4
60	AJ Terrell	1	ATL	22	CB	11	11	1	77	55	71.40%	673	12.2	8.7	5	114.3
30	Marlon Humphrey	1	BAL	24	CB	12	12	1	77	50	64.90%	463	9.3	6	1	80.2
136	Tre'Davious White	1	BUF	25	CB	12	12	3	57	33	57.90%	419	12.7	7.4	4	82.4
437	Donte Jackson	1	CAR	25	CB	11	10	3	47	30	63.80%	371	12.4	7.9	3	82.8
105	Kyle Fuller	1	CHI	28	CB	13	13	1	75	39	52.00%	457	11.7	6.1	3	78.6
174	William Jackson III	1	CIN	28	CB	12	12	1	65	35	53.80%	487	13.9	7.5	4	92.3
188	Denzel Ward	1	CLE	23	CB	10	10	2	66	38	57.60%	390	10.3	5.9	4	82.3
118	Trevon Diggs	1	DAL	22	cb	9	9	2	66	37	56.10%	565	15.3	8.6	4	92
127	Michael Ojemudia	1	DEN	23	cb	13	8	0	74	44	59.50%	628	14.3	8.5	3	100.5
162	Amani Oruwariye	1	DET	24	CB	13	12	1	72	41	56.90%	702	17.1	9.8	3	98.3
165	Jaire Alexander	1	GNB	23	CB	12	12	1	66	36	54.50%	340	9.4	5.2	2	72.8
99	Vernon Hargreaves III	1	HOU	25	CB	13	13	1	84	53	63.10%	709	13.4	8.4	4	100.7
171	Rock Ya-Sin	1	IND	24	cb	11	6	1	56	39	69.60%	508	13	9.1	1	96.4
48	Tre Herndon	1	JAX	24	cb	13	9	0	64	46	71.90%	569	12.4	8.9	4	119.9
210	Charvarius Ward	1	KAN	24	CB	12	11	0	48	28	58.30%	353	12.6	7.4	4	109.1
205	Casey Hayward	1	LAC	31	CB	12	11	0	69	34	49.30%	576	16.9	8.3	5	102.1
214	Jalen Ramsey	1	LAR	26	CB	12	12	1	57	29	50.90%	273	9.4	4.8	2	68.8
108	Trayvon Mullen	1	LVR	23	CB	13	13	2	65	39	60.00%	464	11.9	7.1	5	94.6
194	Xavien Howard	1	MIA	27	CB	13	13	9	83	39	47.00%	550	14.1	6.6	4	45.3
203	Cameron Dantzler	1	MIN	22	cb	9	8	1	62	38	61.30%	441	11.6	7.1	4	97.6
113	Marshon Lattimore	1	NOR	24	CB	11	11	1	64	37	57.80%	542	14.6	8.5	5	105.1
223	Stephon Gilmore	1	NWE	30	CB	10	10	1	48	27	56.30%	318	11.8	6.6	1	74.8
130	James Bradberry	1	NYG	27	CB	13	13	3	80	48	60.00%	543	11.3	6.8	3	77.2
117	Blessuan Austin	1	NYJ	24	cb	9	8	0	60	40	66.70%	401	10	6.7	2	96.6
68	Darius Slay	1	PHI	29	CB	13	12	0	84	64	76.20%	793	12.4	9.4	3	116.8
119	Joe Haden	1	PIT	31	CB	12	12	2	71	34	47.90%	452	13.3	6.4	2	66.2
145	Tre Flowers	1	SEA	25	cb	11	7	0	71	55	77.50%	593	10.8	8.4	1	106.1
157	Jason Verrett	1	SFO	29	CB	11	11	2	56	39	69.60%	389	10	6.9	1	80.1
93	Carlton Davis	1	TAM	24	CB	13	13	4	99	60	60.60%	784	13.1	7.9	5	85.6
11	Malcolm Butler	1	TEN	30	CB	13	13	3	97	60	61.90%	615	10.3	6.3	3	77.5
241	Kendall Fuller	1	WAS	25	CB	11	11	4	65	42	64.60%	497	11.8	7.6	6	92.9
179	Byron Murphy	2	ARI	22	cb	12	6	0	64	41	64.10%	442	10.8	6.9	1	89.5
128	Isaiah Oliver	2	ATL	24	cb	13	9	0	77	55	71.40%	644	11.7	8.4	5	118.1
95	Marcus Peters	2	BAL	27	CB	13	13	3	73	50	68.50%	586	11.7	8	3	89.2
24	Taron Johnson	2	BUF	24	cb	13	9	1	73	51	69.90%	536	10.5	7.3	2	94.3
255	Troy Pride Jr.	2	CAR	22	cb	13	7	0	38	26	68.40%	380	14.6	10	2	118.3
167	Jaylon Johnson	2	CHI	21	CB	13	13	0	78	44	56.40%	694	15.8	8.9	5	107.5
198	LeShaun Sims	2	CIN	27	cb	10	9	1	59	49	83.10%	580	11.8	9.8	6	134.5
85	Terrance Mitchell	2	CLE	28	CB	13	13	0	80	49	61.30%	679	13.9	8.5	4	105.2
286	Anthony Brown	2	DAL	27	cb	7	5	0	39	24	61.50%	308	12.8	7.9	3	111.9
151	Bryce Callahan	2	DEN	29	CB	10	10	2	57	31	54.40%	205	6.6	3.6	0	47.8
120	Jeff Okudah	2	DET	21	cb	9	6	1	53	41	77.40%	594	14.5	11.2	2	118
206	Kevin King	2	GNB	25	cb	8	8	0	38	20	52.60%	267	13.4	7	1	84
181	Bradley Roby	2	HOU	28	CB	10	10	1	44	28	63.60%	215	7.7	4.9	3	88.7
316	Xavier Rhodes	2	IND	30	CB	13	13	2	64	30	46.90%	404	13.5	6.3	2	64.8
243	C.J. Henderson	2	JAX	22	cb	8	8	1	51	33	64.70%	443	13.4	8.7	4	110.2
267	Rashad Fenton	2	KAN	23	cb	13	3	1	53	33	62.30%	429	13	8.1	2	92.4
138	Michael Davis	2	LAC	25	CB	13	12	3	78	47	60.30%	503	10.7	6.4	2	71.7
61	Troy Hill	2	LAR	29	CB	13	13	2	77	55	71.40%	561	10.2	7.3	3	94.1
140	Nevin Lawson	2	LVR	29	cb	12	8	0	55	35	63.60%	374	10.7	6.8	5	113.7
327	Byron Jones	2	MIA	28	CB	11	11	1	58	35	60.30%	565	16.1	9.7	3	103
57	Jeff Gladney	2	MIN	24	CB	13	12	0	79	54	68.40%	650	12	8.2	6	118.6
185	Janoris Jenkins	2	NOR	32	CB	10	10	3	55	30	54.50%	392	13.1	7.1	1	60.6
310	J.C. Jackson	2	NWE	25	cb	13	8	7	64	37	57.80%	511	13.8	8	3	59.6
290	Darnay Holmes	2	NYG	22	cb	11	5	1	44	33	75.00%	323	9.8	7.3	0	85.7
170	Brian Poole	2	NYJ	28	cb	9	7	2	39	25	64.10%	257	10.3	6.6	0	61.6
154	Avonte Maddox	2	PHI	24	cb	10	8	0	49	33	67.30%	429	13	8.8	2	108.3
186	Steven Nelson	2	PIT	27	CB	12	12	2	83	48	57.80%	648	13.5	7.8	7	100.9
146	Shaquill Griffin	2	SEA	25	cb	9	9	2	65	41	63.10%	455	11.1	7	6	101.8
178	Emmanuel Moseley	2	SFO	24	cb	9	8	1	53	32	60.40%	411	12.8	7.8	4	102
114	Sean Murphy-Bunting	2	TAM	23	CB	13	10	1	77	60	77.90%	746	12.4	9.7	4	118.9
168	Desmond King	2	TEN	26		12	6	0	41	27	65.90%	234	8.7	5.7	1	88.9
137	Ronald Darby	2	WAS	26	CB	13	13	0	79	44	55.70%	626	14.2	7.9	1	85.7
80	Dre Kirkpatrick	3	ARI	31	cb	12	9	3	83	56	67.50%	573	10.2	6.9	2	80
220	Darqueze Dennard	3	ATL	29	cb	8	6	1	59	37	62.70%	310	8.4	5.3	3	86.1
296	Jimmy Smith	3	BAL	32	cb	11	5	0	35	17	48.60%	114	6.7	3.3	0	56.1
236	Levi Wallace	3	BUF	25	cb	9	9	2	58	34	58.60%	481	14.1	8.3	3	88.4
139	Rasul Douglas	3	CAR	26	cb	11	9	0	80	49	61.30%	620	12.7	7.8	6	110.4
64	Buster Skrine	3	CHI	31	cb	12	3	0	64	50	78.10%	507	10.1	7.9	5	125.7
251	Mackensie Alexander	3	CIN	27	cb	11	8	0	49	35	71.40%	354	10.1	7.2	0	91.7
338	Kevin Johnson	3	CLE	28	cb	11	5	0	35	22	62.90%	234	10.6	6.7	1	91.8
246	Jourdan Lewis	3	DAL	25	CB	12	10	0	59	38	64.40%	303	8	5.1	2	88.5
34	Kareem Jackson	3	DEN	32	CB	13	13	0	39	26	66.70%	215	8.3	5.5	1	89.2
322	Justin Coleman	3	DET	27	cb	8	4	0	35	28	80.00%	291	10.4	8.3	1	110.8
317	Chandon Sullivan	3	GNB	24	cb	13	8	1	41	27	65.90%	355	13.1	8.7	1	91
112	Lonnie Johnson Jr.	3	HOU	25	cb	13	2	0	32	22	68.80%	257	11.7	8	0	92.8
59	Kenny Moore	3	IND	25	CB	13	11	4	74	51	68.90%	611	12	8.3	5	93.9
328	Sidney Jones	3	JAX	24	cb	9	6	2	38	22	57.90%	442	20.1	11.6	3	103.2
239	Bashaud Breeland	3	KAN	28	cb	9	9	2	49	25	51.00%	298	11.9	6.1	3	73.3
416	Chris Harris Jr.	3	LAC	31	cb	6	6	0	25	14	56.00%	259	18.5	10.4	4	131.5
260	Darious Williams	3	LAR	27	cb	13	8	4	61	32	52.50%	391	12.2	6.4	2	56.1
100	Lamarcus Joyner	3	LVR	30	cb	11	4	0	58	39	67.20%	422	10.8	7.3	1	94.2
180	Nik Needham	3	MIA	24	cb	13	4	2	53	35	66.00%	398	11.4	7.5	0	72.7
270	Kris Boyd	3	MIN	24	cb	10	5	0	39	28	71.80%	397	14.2	10.2	2	121.4
520	Patrick Robinson	3	NOR	33	cb	12	4	2	26	16	61.50%	240	15	9.2	1	72.6
79	Jonathan Jones	3	NWE	27	cb	13	6	1	63	39	61.90%	394	10.1	6.3	4	94.3
262	Isaac Yiadom	3	NYG	24	cb	13	8	0	47	30	63.80%	390	13	8.3	4	118.2
405	Arthur Maulet	3	NYJ	27	cb	8	2	1	17	11	64.70%	126	11.5	7.4	1	82
232	Nickell Robey-Coleman	3	PHI	28	cb	13	5	0	43	33	76.70%	335	10.2	7.8	1	106.2
147	Mike Hilton	3	PIT	26	cb	9	6	2	39	28	71.80%	260	9.3	6.7	1	76.9
221	Quinton Dunbar	3	SEA	28	cb	6	6	1	54	35	64.80%	491	14	9.1	4	111
420	Dontae Johnson	3	SFO	29	cb	11	3	0	26	18	69.20%	196	10.9	7.5	1	104
131	Jamel Dean	3	TAM	24	cb	11	5	1	54	31	57.40%	319	10.3	5.9	3	85.3
305	Breon Borders	3	TEN	25	cb	6	5	1	47	24	51.10%	333	13.9	7.1	3	86.6
230	Jimmy Moreland	3	WAS	25	cb	13	4	1	57	38	66.70%	294	7.7	5.2	0	71.8

[squire12]

My thoughts

 

Kevin King compare rather well against other #2 CB across the league.  His biggest issue is availability.  

Over his career, King has consistently had a very nice QB rating against.  Again, availability being his biggest issue.

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2018	23	GNB	RCB	20	6	6	1	24	13	54.2%	143	11.0	6.0	3	94.3	12.0	94	49	1	0	0	0.0	0	17	3	15.0%
2019	24	GNB	RCB	20	15	14	5	85	50	58.8%	864	17.3	10.2	4	84.6	12.6	594	270	1	0	0	1.0	1	66	14	17.5%
2020	25	GNB	cb	20	9	9	0	38	20	52.6%	267	13.4	7.0	1	84.0	11.1	196	71	0	0	0	0.0	0	43	8	15.7%

Edited December 20, 2020 by squire12

[Kepler]

He's a good player but like you said availability is his biggest issue.

Question is how big of an issue is it? If he plays the rest of this season that's 26 out of 32 regular season games the last 2 years. Imo his body has matured past most of the injuries he had early on like Casey Heyward.

[Mr. Fussnputz]

1 hour ago, squire12 said:

My thoughts

 

Kevin King compare rather well against other #2 CB across the league.  His biggest issue is availability.  

Over his career, King has consistently had a very nice QB rating against.  Again, availability being his biggest issue.

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2018	23	GNB	RCB	20	6	6	1	24	13	54.2%	143	11.0	6.0	3	94.3	12.0	94	49	1	0	0	0.0	0	17	3	15.0%
2019	24	GNB	RCB	20	15	14	5	85	50	58.8%	864	17.3	10.2	4	84.6	12.6	594	270	1	0	0	1.0	1	66	14	17.5%
2020	25	GNB	cb	20	9	9	0	38	20	52.6%	267	13.4	7.0	1	84.0	11.1	196	71	0	0	0	0.0	0	43	8	15.7%

Would you rather have King who is available half the time, or Jackson who is available all the time?

[squire12]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said:

Would you rather have King who is available half the time, or Jackson who is available all the time?

All comes down to the $$.  Both on rookie deals, King hands down.  How big that number jumps in salary for King is the huge question mark.   Jackson has not shown much in terms of coverage ability to warrant being viewed as a replacement for King.    Would love to see more of Hollman and see what he has. @ThatJerkDave is probably on board with that as well!!!

 

Rk

Player

CB#

Tm

Age

Pos

G

GS

Int

Tgt

Cmp

Cmp%

Yds

Yds/Cmp

Yds/Tgt

TD

Rat

165	Jaire Alexander	1	GNB	23	CB	12	12	1	66	36	54.50%	340	9.4	5.2	2	72.8
317	Chandon Sullivan	3	GNB	24	cb	13	8	1	41	27	65.90%	355	13.1	8.7	1	91
206	Kevin King	2	GNB	25	cb	8	8	0	38	20	52.60%	267	13.4	7	1	84
325	Josh Jackson		GNB	24	cb	11	5	0	31	23	74.20%	285	12.4	9.2	1	113
608	Ka'dar Hollman		GNB	26	cb	11	1	0	16	7	43.80%	63	9	3.9	0	54.9

 

Josh Jackson career

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2018	22	GNB	rcb	37	16	10	0	64	40	62.5%	557	13.9	8.7	3	106.1	9.6	326	231	19	2	0	0.0	2	49	11	18.3%
2019	23	GNB		37	14	0	0	7	6	85.7%	63	10.5	9.0	1	143.7	7.4	52	11	0	0	0	0.0	0	11	1	8.3%
2020	24	GNB	cb	37	11	5	0	31	23	74.2%	285	12.4	9.2	1	113.0	9.3	142	143	0	0	0	0.0	0	25	6	19.4%

 

[MacReady]

I told all of you we should have signed Xavier Rhodes. 

[CWood21]

4 minutes ago, squire12 said:

All comes down to the $$.  Both on rookie deals, King hands down.  How big that number jumps in salary for King is the huge question mark.   Jackson has not shown much in terms of coverage ability to warrant being viewed as a replacement for King.    Would love to see more of Hollman and see what he has. @ThatJerkDave is probably on board with that as well!!!

I would generally tend to agree.  Josh Jackson is the Lucas Patrick of CBs.  You put him in there to keep the boat from sinking, but it's not someone you want to rely on.  Last year, Trae Waynes got 3 years, $42M.  Kendall Fuller got 4 years, $40M.  He's probably going to get somewhere between $10M-$12M IMO.

[squire12]

6 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

I would generally tend to agree.  Josh Jackson is the Lucas Patrick of CBs.  You put him in there to keep the boat from sinking, but it's not someone you want to rely on.  Last year, Trae Waynes got 3 years, $42M.  Kendall Fuller got 4 years, $40M.  He's probably going to get somewhere between $10M-$12M IMO.

I think that is true from a normal year money aspect on the salary cap.   2021 cap is still so unknown that the money league wide just might not be there.

[Packerraymond]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said:

Would you rather have King who is available half the time, or Jackson who is available all the time?

Half the time is a total exaggeration. It's more like 75% and it's King all day.

[ThatJerkDave]

6 minutes ago, squire12 said:

 

All comes down to the $$.  Both on rookie deals, King hands down.  How big that number jumps in salary for King is the huge question mark.   Jackson has not shown much in terms of coverage ability to warrant being viewed as a replacement for King.    Would love to see more of Hollman and see what he has. @ThatJerkDave is probably on board with that as well!!!

 

Rk

Player

CB#

Tm

Age

Pos

G

GS

Int

Tgt

Cmp

Cmp%

Yds

Yds/Cmp

Yds/Tgt

TD

Rat

 

165	Jaire Alexander	1	GNB	23	CB	12	12	1	66	36	54.50%	340	9.4	5.2	2	72.8
317	Chandon Sullivan	3	GNB	24	cb	13	8	1	41	27	65.90%	355	13.1	8.7	1	91
206	Kevin King	2	GNB	25	cb	8	8	0	38	20	52.60%	267	13.4	7	1	84
325	Josh Jackson		GNB	24	cb	11	5	0	31	23	74.20%	285	12.4	9.2	1	113
608	Ka'dar Hollman		GNB	26	cb	11	1	0	16	7	43.80%	63	9	3.9	0	54.9

 

Josh Jackson career

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2018	22	GNB	rcb	37	16	10	0	64	40	62.5%	557	13.9	8.7	3	106.1	9.6	326	231	19	2	0	0.0	2	49	11	18.3%
2019	23	GNB		37	14	0	0	7	6	85.7%	63	10.5	9.0	1	143.7	7.4	52	11	0	0	0	0.0	0	11	1	8.3%
2020	24	GNB	cb	37	11	5	0	31	23	74.2%	285	12.4	9.2	1	113.0	9.3	142	143	0	0	0	0.0	0	25	6	19.4%

 

I'm certainly no authority.  But I will say that I would have liked to see Hollman a little more this season to see what he is capable of doing.   I think the low rating against is likely due to small sample size more than better play.  I have been a fan of Hollman since we drafted him, I think we could get starter reps out of him, but we haven't seen it properly yet.  It would be very difficult for me to pull the plug on a high end CB like King for an older player with very limited experience.

 

Re-signing King depends on a few factors:

1.  Do we currently have an adequate replacement? I can only answer this with an optimistic maybe.  Perhaps Hollman can maintain his good play over more reps, and perhaps Sullivan can play outside a little more.

2.  What is the cap space? Some say it will be 175 million, others say it will just stay the same.  That has a big effect on what I would do.  If it goes down, we will have to make cuts just to meet the cap.  I don't think it is wise to give King a second contract if that is the case, we will have to jettison even more money.  If it stays the same, we have some room to work with and can likely retain him, if we desire.

3.  What does Kevin King want? Going by annual value #1 is 20 million per season, #10 is 14, #20 is 10, #30 is 7.5.  Is King at 10ish million better than a first rounder at about 2, or Hollman at not quite 1?

4.  Does the structure of this contract prevent us from signing some of our other, more important players? Jaire and Adams are coming sooner rather than later, they will not be cheap.

[MacReady]

I don’t re-sign King I get a new defensive coordinator and sign any one of the 29-30 year old corners who will get cut or not re-signed for a bargain.

It works literally every year.

Or I just re-sign King for one year, two tops.

 

[squire12]

2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

I'm certainly no authority.  But I will say that I would have liked to see Hollman a little more this season to see what he is capable of doing.   I think the low rating against is likely due to small sample size more than better play.  I have been a fan of Hollman since we drafted him, I think we could get starter reps out of him, but we haven't seen it properly yet.  It would be very difficult for me to pull the plug on a high end CB like King for an older player with very limited experience.

Yeah, the 16 targets is not enough to go on, but it is at least positive and an optimistic view given his low rating against.

2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

 

Re-signing King depends on a few factors:

1.  Do we currently have an adequate replacement? I can only answer this with an optimistic maybe.  Perhaps Hollman can maintain his good play over more reps, and perhaps Sullivan can play outside a little more.

Would have been nice to see more of Hollman over Jackson based on the results thus far. 

2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

2.  What is the cap space? Some say it will be 175 million, others say it will just stay the same.  That has a big effect on what I would do.  If it goes down, we will have to make cuts just to meet the cap.  I don't think it is wise to give King a second contract if that is the case, we will have to jettison even more money.  If it stays the same, we have some room to work with and can likely retain him, if we desire.

agree completely.  I have been seeing some reports/speculation that it could be flat around $195M with some noted borrowing from a 1-2 years ahead.  GB can make some cuts, but in doing so, GB creates some more holes to fill with limited cap space and a finite amount of draft capital in a win-now/soon mode.

2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

3.  What does Kevin King want? Going by annual value #1 is 20 million per season, #10 is 14, #20 is 10, #30 is 7.5.  Is King at 10ish million better than a first rounder at about 2, or Hollman at not quite 1?

I would hope for a 1 year prove it type deal around $5-7M.   just not sure King would go for that unless his market is soft.   But his metrics look good enough to warrant a team shelling out 10-12M if they have the space .... or are willing to push the cap ramifications a bit more than GB typically is.

2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

4.  Does the structure of this contract prevent us from signing some of our other, more important players? Jaire and Adams are coming sooner rather than later, they will not be cheap.

Jaire is going to push or exceed the $20M/year.

Adams might be willing to take a bit less on his 3rd contract to stay with Rodgers a few more years.  maybe a restructure that shifts some money and gets Adams more guaranteed in the short term and secures the long term $$ as well.

[ThatJerkDave]

16 minutes ago, squire12 said:

 

Jaire is going to push or exceed the $20M/year.

Adams might be willing to take a bit less on his 3rd contract to stay with Rodgers a few more years.  maybe a restructure that shifts some money and gets Adams more guaranteed in the short term and secures the long term $$ as well.

I wouldn't risk losing either if it required giving King 30 cents more.  IF that is what it comes down to.

[AlexGreen#20]

Go ahead and do 4/40 already

[Sasquatch]

I sign King back if he’s affordable.  But yesterday, he accounted for half of Teddy’s passing yards,had two stupid penalties, and tackled like he was hurt.  Very bad game.  That said, I don’t know what the answer is moving forward.