Nozizaki Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Broncofan said: Combine it with bad mechanics that lead to misses in accuracy it’s hard to trust that this 3-game stretch is anything but the bad-D success most QB’s encounter. Then fall back to earth once better competition is seen. Having said that JAX may keep the pattern going for 1 more week (but I did take Jax +7.5 lol). I personally think it's mostly Nagy/Lazor admitting defeat and running simple rollout/PAs that only have half field reads and allow Trubisky to run if need be. But yes, this isn't a consistent gameplan that will win you a playoff game. Eventually the bears will fall behind and won't be able to alternate runs with play action passes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Well, he's not Rex Grossman quite yet, but he's getting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RamblinMan99 said: Well, he's not Rex Grossman quite yet, but he's getting there. Bad read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I think Trubisky can be serviceable in the right system and a decent supporting cast. Chicago has really only given him Allen Robinson to work with, literally every other option the last four years has been subpar (typical of Chicago). Yeah, work on his mechanics and use him as he should be used and find a decent coach and he will be good. Not great ever but good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Any QB can do well when their running game gets 609 yards over 4 weeks. The Bears averaged 52.6 yards rushing when Trubisky was on the bench. They averaged 146.1 per game in the Trubisky starts. Feel free to heap praise on a QB who gets about 123 yards per game run support (Trubisky gets just over 23 a game himself) while facing bad teams. He's faced Detroit x2 Minnesota Houston NY Giants Atlanta He has yet to start against a team that does not still has a shot at 10+ losses. 4 of those 6 teams fired their coach this year. (Detroit counts twice) He got benched on merit against one of them I bet he beats up the Jags this week too. Lets see if he does the same to Green Bay with the playoffs on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) If you are talking about do you want him on a roster next year I think the answer is simple. As a 5 million dollar backup with starter potential, absolutely. As an 18-25 million starter, hard pass. Edited December 24, 2020 by SkippyX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, SkippyX said: If you are talking about do you want him on a roster next year I think the answer is simple. As a 5 million dollar backup with starter potential, absolutely. As an 18-25 million starter, hard pass. As it stands right now, he’d probably gets a Fitz type deal of 2 years 26M somewhere. But if he wins these next two games and makes the playoffs, and looks good those two games, finishing with 5 impressive games in a row, he might like a 3 year, 21M per year type deal from someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 He would be pretty nice if he had a good deep ball, but since there’s no reason to respect his deep ball, he’s easy to defend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, BayRaider said: As it stands right now, he’d probably gets a Fitz type deal of 2 years 26M somewhere. But if he wins these next two games and makes the playoffs, and looks good those two games, finishing with 5 impressive games in a row, he might like a 3 year, 21M per year type deal from someone. How he plays in the playoffs can always be a game changer. (he has to win 1 playoff game and look good in both at minimum) He's got a long way to go in beating Green Bay and then winning in the playoffs. (no one is paying him because he beats up the Jags) Mariota is worth 25 million a year if he wins the next 2, squeaks in and wins the Super Bowl with 4 very good games. Its a big IF for both guys. If he does go on a playoff run then it would make sense that the Bears give him the Fitz++ at like 3 years and 40-45 base with lots of incentives and options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, SkippyX said: How he plays in the playoffs can always be a game changer. (he has to win 1 playoff game and look good in both at minimum) He's got a long way to go in beating Green Bay and then winning in the playoffs. (no one is paying him because he beats up the Jags) Mariota is worth 25 million a year if he wins the next 2, squeaks in and wins the Super Bowl with 4 very good games. Its a big IF for both guys. If he does go on a playoff run then it would make sense that the Bears give him the Fitz++ at like 3 years and 40-45 base with lots of incentives and options. Lol Raiders would need to win both games, and Ravens lose both. I think all four of those games will go against the Raiders. Also, I hope Mariota starts, but Carr is trying to start this week. I’d rather see what we have in Mariota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 10:25 AM, SteelKing728 said: He terrorizes Zimmer. I don't get him tbh. We can slow down Brady and Rodgers but not Trubisky. It could be because Brady and Rodgers are chess players and Zimmer is scheming for that. Trubisky is still learning to play checkers so maybe half of the things Zim throws out there to scare him are things he doesn't realize he should be scared of. He just plays fundamental football and Mike Zimmer kind of forgets about that kind of thing. Just a theory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 19 hours ago, PacAttack04 said: I did see a lot of comparisons to Alex Smith when he came out. Honestly, think he could have a similar career to Smith. Where he’s a lot better later in his career than earlier. Surprisingly, I think Washington is a team that he would fit well on. Use Trubisky the same way they used Alex Smith, Theother being Carolina, if the Panthers move on from Teddy, they have the offensive talent to carry him by using McCaffery in the short passing game and Anderson and Moore as effective deep threats. Posted something similar on sunday Below is the Trubisky vs Smith comparison https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=TrubMi00&player_id2=SmitAl03 Below is a per game comparison last 3 columns are rushing atts, yards and TD per game Rk Player From To Cmp Att Yds TD Int Sk Yds Att Yds TD 1 Alex Smith 2005 2020 18.7 29.8 205.1 1.1 0.6 2.5 14.1 3.3 15.1 0.1 2 Mitchell Trubisky 2017 2020 19.5 30.8 206.0 1.3 0.7 2.3 14.3 3.7 20.6 0.1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 if you gave trubes mahomes’ situation he could be a top 15 guy i would say now, if you give mahomes trubes’ situation he too would be a top 15 guy, and if you give mahomes mahomes’ situation then he’s a top 1 guy so i wouldn’t say trubes is bad bad however i would definitely say his ceiling’s a lot higher than what he’s shown, and with the right coaching staff he could still unlock it - but it just happens that particular staff already has their franchise guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 They’re really gonna let finishing strong down the stretch against horrible defenses be the reason for bring him back lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, CP3MVP said: They’re really gonna let finishing strong down the stretch against horrible defenses be the reason for bring him back lol They shouldn’t. Even if he goes 9-7 and wins a playoff game, they’ve already made way too big of a time commitment to him, to re-sign him over 5 games. You can’t let one player hold your franchise back so long. Time to let go. Edited December 25, 2020 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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