NVRamsFan Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Danger said: You know what's funny. It seems like anyone who's not an Eagles fan loves to hate Wentz and refuses to give him any credit. Aside from @Matts4313 that is. Personally I'd have been happy with Wentz if we took him. But I love what I'm seeing from Goff with a real coach and would take him over Wentz and have no problem with it. I think they'll both be damned good QB's and hopefully be battling for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 hours ago, JudeMorrigan said: This is not a great argument. The sequence to end the Bucs-Bills game this last weekend is a perfect example of why. With the score tied with 9:30 left in the game, Winston had a series with no incompletions to lead to the team scoring the go-ahead TD with 3:13 left on the clock. The Bills proceeded to go 75 yards in three plays to tie the game back up. Ok, so there's 2:28 left in the game, still time for another score before the end of the game. Following a touchback, the first play of that series is an 8-yard completion, the wideout fumbles, game over. In short, as important as a quarterback is, there are entirely too many factors that go into a team's success to use the playoffs as a metric for a single player's success. I agree with your argument but I’ll stick to the results argument. Like talk about factors, Goff was in the worst situation that a rookie QB could be in ever. Not too many people gave him a pass because it’s still about results and he was (0-7) and wasn’t producing. Now the situation is better and the Rams are (5-2) and Goff is producing. So yeah the factors we can look at but we both know it’s all about wins and losses and these are franchise QBs so they are held to higher standards than let’s say Kizer or Beathard. Even Tyrod we don’t hold as high of a standard as we would Mariota, Winston, Wentz, and Goff. So in that case it would be more fitting to say IF Jones didn’t drop a potential GW td pass in one of the Bills early games they wouldn’t have lost that. But even then it’s still about results and not fully about factors. So again I agree with you with factors go into the success or lack of success for QBs on the teams but it’s a harsh reality about results in sports and Wentz and Goff is putting their teams in position to make the playoffs in year 2 (Wentz 22 starts and Goff 14 starts) and Mariota and Winston hasn’t took their teams to the playoffs. Mariota has a better chance than Winston this year as we stand through seven weeks but we will see for all those QBs and their respect teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Wentz is becoming one of my more favorite players in the league. He's on his way to a hellavuh career, and I'm not even an iggles fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod01 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 5:14 PM, El ramster said: Jamies is having his best year to date.. Only 3 more turnovers this past week. Not bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 21 hours ago, lod01 said: Only 3 more turnovers this past week. Not bad for him. 3 of his 8 on the season. On course for his lowest number of turnovers in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I've always liked the #2 pick in both duos more. And I think Wentz is better than Mariota and Goff is better than Jameis, so there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wentz is carrying the duo by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 5:05 PM, Buc Ball said: 3 of his 8 on the season. On course for his lowest number of turnovers in his career. I'm a Bucs fan and I can tell you 8 turnovers in 7 games is poor. And he didn't even play the full game against Arizona. He plays wreck less and he can't hit anyone deep. He's got the flaws in his game that get that bust labeled next to his name. He's regressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Has Jameis actually made any strides forward yet at this point being half way through year 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, Danger said: Has Jameis actually made any strides forward yet at this point being half way through year 3? No. His accuracy has been bad. Vision is bad. He's missed open receivers due to staring down Jackson and Evans. He's gotten away with throwing balls into double coverage. His turnover numbers are down but his decision making is still poor. The eye test shows a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Wentz and Goff so far today. Wentz 9/15 - 152 Yards - 3 TD - 0 INT Goff 9/11 - 209 Yards - 3 TD - 0 INT Can we wrap this thread up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 3:26 PM, jsthomp2007 said: Wentz is carrying the duo by himself. Do you even watch the Rams...? That was a pretty stupid comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, JonStark said: Do you even watch the Rams...? That was a pretty stupid comment. It was good timing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Goff and Wentz have already won. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: Goff and Wentz have already won. Next. I guess that means we need a 200-page Goff vs. Wentz thread? EDIT: Forgot that we have to add Dak to the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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