JohnnyU Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Danger said: Uhhh except right now? Carson Wentz - Passer Rating: 97.7 Dak Prescott - Passer Rating: 93.1 Carson Wentz - Team Record: 4-1 Dak Prescott - Team Record: 2-3 Also Prescott had nothing to do with the conversation at hand lmfao. why mention goff and wentz, but not statistically the best qb from that draft class which is dak prescott this is wilson and luck all over again, and we know how that ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, JohnnyU said: why mention goff and wentz, but not statistically the best qb from that draft class which is dak prescott this is wilson and luck all over again, and we know how that ended Jared Goff: Passer Rating - 94.1 Jared Goff: Team Record - 3-2 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But hey if that's not enough for you. 11 minutes ago, BAConrad said: You realize that Dez has SIX pass break ups right??? As in Dak literally threw 6 passes that were so bad that Dez had to cover the defender and break up the pass so it wouldn't be picked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAConrad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, JohnnyU said: this is wilson and luck all over again, and we know how that ended I didn't realize it ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyU Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, Danger said: Jared Goff: Passer Rating - 94.1 Jared Goff: Team Record - 3-2 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dak Prescott Career stats Completion percentage: 66.3 Passing yards: 4,859 TD–INT: 34–8 Passer rating: 101.6 Rushing yards: 408 Rushing touchdowns: 8 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Carson Wentz Career Stats Passing yards: 5,144 TD–INT: 26–17 Passer rating: 83.4 Completion percentage: 62.4 Rushing yards: 258 Rushing touchdowns: 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jared Goff Career Stats Passing completions: 212 Passing attempts: 369 Percentage: 57.5 TD–INT: 12–10 Passing yards: 2,449 Passer rating: 77.2 Ok these are the numbers i have posted for each of them, since it may be hard for you to do math. Right now the Eagles according to pff have the best oline in football and have a top 15 defense. The rams have a top 10 oline and a top 15 defense as well. The Cowboys oline is underperforming, zeke is outta shape, and their defense is rated 29th Like i said this is andrew luck vs. russell wilson part 2.. and what i mean by that is, people want wentz to be better than prescott so bad that they become fanboys. Same with Luck and Wilson from 2012, when in reality the stats show the comparison is not really close, and Prescott is closer to someone like Wilson and Rodgers than he is to Wentz. In fact, when you compare Prescott to Wentz, i feel you are in an unintentional way disrespecting Prescott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, BAConrad said: I didn't realize it ended. It's not over but it's hard not to say Wilson won't win at this point in their careers. Dude doesn't even have a losing season yet... while Luck had major shoulder surgery and is stuck on a crappy team forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, JohnnyU said: Dak Prescott Career stats Completion percentage: 66.3 Passing yards: 4,859 TD–INT: 34–8 Passer rating: 101.6 Rushing yards: 408 Rushing touchdowns: 8 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Carson Wentz Career Stats Passing yards: 5,144 TD–INT: 26–17 Passer rating: 83.4 Completion percentage: 62.4 Rushing yards: 258 Rushing touchdowns: 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jared Goff Career Stats Passing completions: 212 Passing attempts: 369 Percentage: 57.5 TD–INT: 12–10 Passing yards: 2,449 Passer rating: 77.2 Ok these are the numbers i have posted for each of them, since it may be hard for you to do math. Right now the Eagles according to pff have the best oline in football and have a top 15 defense. The rams have a top 10 oline and a top 15 defense as well. The Cowboys oline is underperforming, zeke is outta shape, and their defense is rated 29th Like i said this is andrew luck vs. russell wilson part 2.. and what i mean by that is, people want wentz to be better than prescott so bad that they become fanboys. Same with Luck and Wilson from 2012, when in reality the stats show the comparison is not really close, and Prescott is closer to someone like Wilson and Rodgers than he is to Wentz. In fact, when you compare Prescott to Wentz, i feel you are in an unintentional way disrespecting Prescott At this point including their rookie stats is pretty pointless. LMFAO But I do love how you include career stats, and proceed to say "RIGHT NOW DAK's team sucks", but last year Carson Wentz had literally just about nothing behind him. No weapons. A defense that was good for the first few games and then sucked, and the offensive line was "underperforming" without Lane Johnson for 10 games. "Lets include numbers that factor in when my team is doing bad to pimp my guy, but ignore the fact that in the same time frame the other guy was having issues of the same nature but worse." You guys STILL have better weapons at your disposal than the Eagles do. Offensive line is underperforming, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAConrad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, OleXmad said: It's not over but it's hard not to say Wilson won't win at this point in their careers. Dude doesn't even have a losing season yet... while Luck had major shoulder surgery and is stuck on a crappy team forever. Luck is still in the beginning of his prime and he went 11-5 3 years in a row and to the AFCCG with a crappy team every year. His shoulder injury is worrisome sure. But Wilson is not going to stay healthy behind that OL in Seattle either. It's way too soon to say Wilson is undoubtedly better. Luck is a Top 5 QB in the league still. People are just prisoners of the moment and forget how good he is because he's been dinged up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAConrad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Danger said: At this point including their rookie stats is pretty pointless. LMFAO It's pointless trying to debate with that dude. Don't fall into his trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, BAConrad said: It's pointless trying to debate with that dude. Don't fall into his trap He's using logical fallacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, BAConrad said: Luck is still in the beginning of his prime and he went 11-5 3 years in a row and to the AFCCG with a crappy team every year. His shoulder injury is worrisome sure. But Wilson is not going to stay healthy behind that OL in Seattle either. It's way too soon to say Wilson is undoubtedly better. Luck is a Top 5 QB in the league still. People are just prisoners of the moment and forget how good he is because he's been dinged up Luck isn't a top 5 QB in the NFL because he's not playing...He's really good when healthy sure. But right now WIlson has 100% had the better career so far and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 And "Luck vs Wilson" Hell for all we know this could be "Vince Young vs Jay Culter" These two QB's are their own individuals and completely different people. To say it's going to pan out either way this early into their career is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Danger said: And "Luck vs Wilson" Hell for all we know this could be "Vince Young vs Jay Culter" These two QB's are their own individuals and completely different people. To say it's going to pan out either way this early into their career is ludicrous. It is way too early to say who will have the better career overall, but it's pretty easy to see whose had the better career at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersuavesky Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 hours ago, JohnnyU said: why mention goff and wentz, but not statistically the best qb from that draft class which is dak prescott Because it's about the TOP TWO PICKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I could see Winston getting hot and winning a superbowl but having only an above average career. He is probably the most powerful emotional leader of a football team in the NFL. If Goff gets weapons I think he could be like Kurt Warner and just shred the league. I think Wentz will be similiar to Elway, always good and always fighting for his team. MM I think will be another guy who is very good for all his career, I think he will need more weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Supersuavesky said: Because it's about the TOP TWO PICKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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